VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

felicemastronzo · Dec 19, 2021

DavDR said:
This is one of the most annoying things in the way the game is written. It's obvious in several places that DPC doesn't want the player to know certain things or doesn't want the player communicating what they know to another character because it will undermine the plot or because there's a 'Shocking Reveal'. Personally I wish he'd just give up on these SR's in his writing, especially as most of the players have already figured out the SR long before it's sprung.

I think he could have done that in this way, but he could have just warned us.

"I should warn Sage, but I don't know if she'd believe me. I'll keep an eye on Quinn and as soon as I have something concrete I'll show Sage who she's trusting."

a line of dialogue/thought at the bottom of one of Mc's thousand renderings sleeping or resting

instead no, inner dialogues are exclusive for generic crises of conscience and independent from our actions (the one after the concert is surreal...)

that Maya's boyfriend agrees to organize the Halloween party with Quinn simply doesn't make sense.

but even an MC who isn't with Maya at that point should either be convinced that in the end Quinn isn't as "evil" as he thought, or he should be asking himself two questions.

J.A.L. · Dec 19, 2021

PashafromRussia said:
Because if Sage takes everything so personally, she'll have to drop out of college altogether, lol.

Maybe she will drop out fo college. And it´s something really personal. Lied and betrayed by her best friend, Quinn, her sisters of the sorority, her father, dean of the college, her mother, teacher at the college... and even (in some routes), her boyfriend Tremolo. Can´t be more personal.

DavDR · Dec 19, 2021

PashafromRussia said:
I would never believe Sage would say that. It looks very strained and implausible. I could believe it if Jill or Maya said that, but not Sage. She's not that touchy.Of course, she can say something like "I need to think about everything" or "I don't want to see anyone," but this will not mean that they will break up. Because if Sage takes everything so personally, she'll have to drop out of college altogether, lol.

Dude, finding out that your Sorority is a brothel is pretty damn personal, especially if it becomes a public scandal. That's something that could brand her name for life. And when it comes to fucking your girlfriends Mother, don't even try to reason out of that it's a purely instinctual matter. You're just dead.

felicemastronzo · Dec 19, 2021

DavDR said:
Dude, finding out that your Sorority is a brothel is pretty damn personal, especially if it becomes a public scandal. That's something that could brand her name for life. And when it comes to fucking your girlfriends Mother, don't even try to reason out of that it's a purely instinctual matter. You're just dead.

I'm not convinced that having sex with Jade is a game over, I mean how should Sage find out? Jade should tell her... It's not something a stepmom would confess to her daughter lightly.

at the most, dating both of them should make Jade back off and if she hinders MC and his relationship with Sage, order him to leave her alone...

PashafromRussia · Dec 19, 2021

You take the restaurant too seriously. It's just a plot mechanic that allows you to
1) to spend money to the player, which MC has accumulated a lot through mini-games. That's why he invented Madame. An easy way for a player to spend money.
2) It allows you to quickly get sex scenes in the first chapter.
Moreover, the MC talked about the so-called restaurant only with Riona and Camila, and then only in Chapter 5. MС didn't even think about whether it was right or not, he just perceives it as a way for girls to earn money for the maintenance of the mansion. Forcing the player to replay right from the first chapter is too much even for DPC. Because all the key decisions that affect the progress with girls appear only in episode 4.

DavDR · Dec 19, 2021

felicemastronzo said:
I'm not convinced that having sex with Jade is a game over, I mean how should Sage find out? Jade should tell her... It's not something a stepmom would confess to her daughter lightly.

at the most, dating both of them should make Jade back off and if she hinders MC and his relationship with Sage, order him to leave her alone...

I smell another blackmail plot. This on top of the possibility that Burke will blackmail Maya. Turns out that Being a DIK means being a blackmailer.

wakkawalla · Dec 19, 2021

PashafromRussia said:
That's why he invented Madame. An easy way for a player to spend money.

raise your hands everybody who spends money on mommy

Arigon · Dec 19, 2021

Personally, I would trade Jade and Bella for every other LI in a heartbeat!
Jade has the best scenes for sure. Bella is my fav. Jade is right behind.
If Sage can be kept in that fun place, all the better!
Peace

felicemastronzo · Dec 19, 2021

wakkawalla said:
raise your hands everybody who spends money on mommy

I would say that the call is now closed

wakkawalla · Dec 19, 2021

was disappointed at how reasonably sage reacted to being rejected three times by the horsedick she wants badly to ride. would like to see her flip her ginger lid when she finds out the guy who won't fuck her has stirred every other pot around her, all her sisterfriends AND her mom, even paying money for what she's throwing at him for free. maybe she'll put herself on the menu out of sheer desperation to get stuffed.

J.A.L. · Dec 19, 2021

felicemastronzo said:
I'm not convinced that having sex with Jade is a game over, I mean how should Sage find out? Jade should tell her... It's not something a stepmom would confess to her daughter lightly.

at the most, dating both of them should make Jade back off and if she hinders MC and his relationship with Sage, order him to leave her alone...

Chekhov's gun.

Why DPC throws Jade to Tremolo´s arms? Jade is the one that seduces Tremolo. And that happens in the middle of the Hell Week with the quest of "fucking a theacher" and "fucking a feminist". DPC wants that Tremolo fucks Jade. First landmine. Then, the second landmine: the video of Jade and Tremolo in Burke´s hands. And after that, the third one: Jade is Sage´s mom... Why DPC would put such a complicated Chekhov´s gun, if he´s not going to shoot it against the player (Tremolo)

And the same happens with Quinn´s restaurant. DPC puts that offer in front of the player at the beginning of the game, when the player doesn´t even know yet what kind of game is this. It this the only chance for Tremolo to fuck in this game? Will it have consequences, or this is one of those games about "harem" in which the MC can fuck everybody without consequences? First landmine. Then, the second one: Burke is the main client (or maybe, main owner, we don´t know) of the restaurant. And the third one: Burke is Sage´s dad. Again, if DPC doesn´t shoot that Chekhov´s gun in Tremolo´s (the player) face, I would be extremelly surprised.

The new guy here is me, not you guys. Don´t you know already about DPC´s love for drama?

sixart · Dec 19, 2021

wakkawalla said:
was disappointed at how reasonably sage reacted to being rejected three times by the horsedick she wants badly to ride. would like to see her flip her ginger lid when she finds out the guy who won't fuck her has stirred every other pot around her, all her sisterfriends AND her mom, even paying money for what she's throwing at him for free. maybe she'll put herself on the menu out of sheer desperation to get stuffed.
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Welp... it would be a fun scenario that's for sure... but Sage does not strike me as THAT desperate type... sure she might be hurt by that but prostitution ?!? Nah... !

DavDR · Dec 19, 2021

sixart said:
Welp... it would be a fun scenario that's for sure... but Sage does not strike me as THAT desperate type... sure she might be hurt by that but prostitution ?!? Nah... !

I don't know how it is in your country but in the US a sex scandal involving hookers in a college sorority is the kind of story that the dignified major media outlets live for. They get to report lots of salacious details AND feel morally superior about it. If the games situation were to become a public scandal it would ruin Sage's entire life.

felicemastronzo · Dec 19, 2021

J.A.L. said:
Chekhov's gun.

Why DPC throws Jade to Tremolo´s arms? Jade is the one that seduces Tremolo. And that happens in the middle of the Hell Week with the quest of "fucking a theacher" and "fucking a feminist". DPC wants that Tremolo fucks Jade. First landmine. Then, the second landmine: the video of Jade and Tremolo in Burke´s hands. And after that, the third one: Jade is Sage´s mom... Why DPC would put such a complicated Chekhov´s gun, if he´s not going to shoot it against the player (Tremolo)

And the same happens with Quinn´s restaurant. DPC puts that offer in front of the player at the beginning of the game, when the player doesn´t even know yet what kind of game is this. It this the only chance for Tremolo to fuck in this game? Will it have consequences, or this is one of those games about "harem" in which the MC can fuck everybody without consequences? First landmine. Then, the second one: Burke is the main client (or maybe, main owner, we don´t know) of the restaurant. And the third one: Burke is Sage´s dad. Again, if DPC doesn´t shoot that Chekhov´s gun in Tremolo´s (the player) face, I would be extremelly surprised.

The new guy here is me, not you guys. Don´t you know already about DPC´s love for drama?

but you forget two elements

everything we do with Jade is optional, the real big dramas of PDC are universal, there is no way to avoid them
if Jade's only downside was with Sage, it would be a problem for very few players, only those interested in Sage (let's say a quarter?) and only those who have done stuff with Jade (a third?)
so we wouldn't be talking about a memorable moment of the game anyway, but about a little trap

then this story of DPC Dramas is more fame than substance, for now the only two dramas are related to affinity and not to players' choices
the breakup with Bella because of Cathe, therefore linked to our choices, was definitely a bad surprise, but I really struggle to consider it a dramatic moment

surely having a relationship with Jade, and even more so having shown the video will have negative repercussions, but that they're strictly with Sage I'm not at all convinced of it

J.A.L. · Dec 19, 2021

wakkawalla said:
was disappointed at how reasonably sage reacted to being rejected three times by the horsedick she wants badly to ride. would like to see her flip her ginger lid when she finds out the guy who won't fuck her has stirred every other pot around her, all her sisterfriends AND her mom, even paying money for what she's throwing at him for free. maybe she'll put herself on the menu out of sheer desperation to get stuffed.

Yeah, Sage´s character without fucking with Tremolo doesn´t have any sense. There is no reason why they become so close with each other, except screen requirements.

sixart · Dec 19, 2021

DavDR said:
I don't know how it is in your country but in the US a sex scandal involving hookers in a college sorority is the kind of story that the dignified major media outlets live for. They get to report lots of salacious details AND feel morally superior about it. If the games situation were to become a public scandal it would ruin Sage's entire life.

And THAT warrants prostitution ???

Btw... I agree on ruining someones life ( although this is still a fiction about college life not the real worlds mishaps ) but this is just outright BULLSHIT solution for it... not to mention Sage is capable in every way possible...

Arigon · Dec 19, 2021

I gladly was Jade's toy.
I never shared the video, because it is FAR more amusing to let Derek step up to the plate.
I avoided any choices to hurt my chances with Bella.
I play with Sage.
I avoided the restaurant. I don't pay in real life, not going to in a porn game.
So I am a happy fella.
DPC is a drama queen extraordinary. I am just hoping he avoids his past FUBAR from Acting Lessons. Almost any other drama I could live with.
Peace

wakkawalla · Dec 19, 2021

J.A.L. said:
Yeah, Sage´s character without fucking with Tremolo doesn´t have any sense. There is no reason why they become so close with each other, except screen requirements.

or like big-dik fuckface running to bella when he gets gum in his hair. isn't that called good writing? even if you're on her path she should see that as a big red flag that she's gonna be playing mommy to this motherless dumbass, a dynamic she seemingly isn't interested in given how insecure she's shown to be about the age difference.

J.A.L. · Dec 19, 2021

felicemastronzo said:
but you forget two elements

everything we do with Jade is optional, the real big dramas of PDC are universal, there is no way to avoid them
if Jade's only downside was with Sage, it would be a problem for very few players, only those interested in Sage (let's say a quarter?) and only those who have done stuff with Jade (a third?)
so we wouldn't be talking about a memorable moment of the game anyway, but about a little trap

Yes, those are traps for the people playing Sage´s route, that I´m pretty sure are way more than a quarter. We know that Jill and Bella´s routes have their own traps. And I suppose that there are other traps in LesbianDramaQueen & Midget paths that I will never see because I will never play their routes. Not all traps in the plot are for all players.

DavDR · Dec 19, 2021

sixart said:
And THAT warrants prostitution ???

Btw... I agree on ruining someones life ( although this is still a fiction about college life not the real worlds mishaps ) but this is just outright BULLSHIT solution for it... not to mention Sage is capable in every way possible...

Where did I say it warrants prostitution? Sage is the President of the HOT's, if the news breaks out that there is a prostitution ring being run out of the Sorority no one is going to believe that Sage didn't have anything to do with it. Even though she is innocent.

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