VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

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Alley_Cat

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Michael Rawaon said:
Dude, Dylan is the most popular character in the story. Without giving Dylan the L&P threesome combination (Sophia, Dylan and Ellie) in the story, If he had given Sam that (threesome) path of composition. Dylan and incest fans will surely be outraged by this. And Then Dylan fans may lose interest in the story, And then Dylan fans can stop supporting him. And also L&P may lose a lot of Dylan's fans, With all these problems L&P can't afford to give Sam a threesome path.

If there is no threesome (Sophia, Dylan, Ellie) route to Dylan in the story then surely there is no threesome route to sam.
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Abhilash Samuel said:
Yes, I agree with you, I would love to see Sophia, Dylan and Ellie Threesome combination sex in the story, not Sam's combination sex. (y)
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The bonus storyline will be mutually exclusive with Sophia/Dylan by the end of the evening of this playable day, and well and truly over by the time Sophia and Dylan have sex, let alone Sophia and Dylan being in a threesome with anyone.

And sex between Sophia and Dylan is likely decades away, so practically not going to happen, even if it is planned in the story
 
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As I've said before, the problem with cutting the story down to the bone is that the game would suffer for it. What makes AWAM special is the complicated & interconnected routes. That complexity will eventually kill the game. But if we strip it away and focus on just the primary LIs (Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Patricia) then I think the game would quickly become stale. But cutting the game to the bone is the only way the game will ever be completed. It's a conundrum.

Honestly, I don't think it can be fixed. We've got what we've got at this point.
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
As I've said before, the problem with cutting the story down to the bone is that the game would suffer for it. What makes AWAM special is the complicated & interconnected routes. That complexity will eventually kill the game. But if we strip it away and focus on just the primary LIs (Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Patricia) then I think the game would quickly become stale. But cutting the game to the bone is the only way the game will ever be completed. It's a conundrum.

Honestly, I don't think it can be fixed. We've got what we've got at this point.
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True, it is what it is, we have to accept whatever we get until the day L&P finally stops. L&P's mind is on the right track with creating a realistic novel, with a rich and interactive world. But this task is just not for one man, atleast not for a man who is also heavily obsessed with his art and finer details.
 
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Alley_Cat

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GingerSweetGirl said:
As I've said before, the problem with cutting the story down to the bone is that the game would suffer for it. What makes AWAM special is the complicated & interconnected routes. That complexity will eventually kill the game. But if we strip it away and focus on just the primary LIs (Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Patricia) then I think the game would quickly become stale. But cutting the game to the bone is the only way the game will ever be completed. It's a conundrum.

Honestly, I don't think it can be fixed. We've got what we've got at this point.
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Except that things like the side job aren't actually connected to anything. Makes absolutely no difference to anything if Sophia teaches Ava's boys Sex Ed or not, or if she wears the nurse's uniform for the old guys or not. You can as far as I'm aware remove much of the Filthy route characters like the subway thugs, Janitor Clarke etc and still have the Filthy points to do all the scenes on each route.

It barely makes a difference for the Ellie route if Dylan is at boarding school or not, apart from what in all likelihood will end up being a throwaway comment from Ellie about wanted to start nude sunbathing.

Even the Bikini Show that is being mentioned lately isn't really connected. I haven't heard it mattering in the slightest to the Sam route if he is there or not.
 
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Sabertooth__ said:
True, it is what it is, we have to accept whatever we get until the day L&P finally stops. L&P's mind is on the right track with creating a realistic novel, with a rich and interactive world. But this task is just not for one man, atleast not for a man who is also heavily obsessed with his art and finer details.
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Agree he will abandon it some day, it's been what 5 years and this is how far he has taken it.
 
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Alley_Cat said:
Except that things like the side job aren't actually connected to anything. Makes absolutely no difference to anything if Sophia teaches Ava's boys Sex Ed or not, or if she wears the nurse's uniform for the old guys or not. You can as far as I'm aware remove much of the Filthy route characters like the subway thugs, Janitor Clarke etc and still have the Filthy points to do all the scenes on each route.

It barely makes a difference for the Ellie route if Dylan is at boarding school or not, apart from what in all likelihood will end up being a throwaway comment from Ellie about wanted to start nude sunbathing.

Even the Bikini Show that is being mentioned lately isn't really connected. I haven't heard it mattering in the slightest to the Sam route if he is there or not.
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Well the way you say makes light of every storyline or scene in the game. Let's say he removes the Ellie route entirely. This route has long scenes, multiple branches and is full of events, also having to depend on other routes entirely for progress. Eliminating this storyline should be enough to accommodate atleast 3-4 others in the game.
If we want incest with a female, Patricia is already there. Incest with her child, Dylan is there. So it makes absolutely no difference if Sophia fucks her daughter or not. We can get enough lesbian points from Elsewhere and also enough filthy points. See even the Ellie route can be called unnecessary.

Multiple characters and storylines help create a world, something actually intresting and not monotonous like most games where the same 4 characters keep coming back every 2-3 events. No functional woman with an job and actual life has interactions with only 3-4 people that too only in her family. Sophia feels like an actual person because she has numerous people in it. Majority storylines Don't even have that Many events. Like the old gents. They have only 4 events left in the game after tomorrow. Two next week and then two week after that. Their events are not huge either. At the same time it caters to fetishes of different people. Some want to see Sophia with young boys, some with old, some with men her age. Some with women, some with family members.

Ruining the whole game by cutting it down just to complete it in reasonable time is the worst solution.
 
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I don't understand why everyone is crazy about Dylan and his routes, I don't know.:rolleyes::unsure: He looks like a asshole to look at. :LOL::ROFLMAO::devilish: A good gentleman in the story is just Sam.:love: He loves and cares for Sophia so much. Also Sophia loves sam more than Dylan. :love:We are lucky Sophia does not love Dylan and L&P does not give Dylan a love route. :devilish::ROFLMAO:;)Sophia and Ellie are just limited to sam, they don't want sam to share little idiot Dylan has them,:cool: And like Dylan and others, Sam never cheats on Sophia to earn her love.

Dylan is completely stupid and asshole like his father (Liam) because they are the ones who get Sophia into great danger.:confused::mad:
 
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Allan Sam5 said:
I don't understand why everyone is crazy about Dylan and his routes, I don't know.:rolleyes::unsure: He looks like a asshole to look at. :LOL::ROFLMAO::devilish: A good gentleman in the story is just Sam.:love: He loves and cares for Sophia so much. Also Sophia loves sam more than Dylan. :love:We are lucky Sophia does not love Dylan and L&P does not give Dylan a love route. :devilish::ROFLMAO:;)Sophia and Ellie are just limited to sam, they don't want sam to share little idiot Dylan has them,:cool: And like Dylan and others, Sam never cheats on Sophia to earn her love.

Dylan is completely stupid and asshole like his father (Liam) because they are the ones who get Sophia into great danger.:confused::mad:
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Sophia and Ellie just being limited to Sam is a ridiculous statement. The other Ellie branches are likely to be Logan and Jules. And Ellie has a better relationship with Jules than she does with Sam anyway.
 
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Allan Sam5 said:
I don't understand why everyone is crazy about Dylan and his routes, I don't know.:rolleyes::unsure: He looks like a asshole to look at. :LOL::ROFLMAO::devilish: A good gentleman in the story is just Sam.:love: He loves and cares for Sophia so much. Also Sophia loves sam more than Dylan. :love:We are lucky Sophia does not love Dylan and L&P does not give Dylan a love route. :devilish::ROFLMAO:;)Sophia and Ellie are just limited to sam, they don't want sam to share little idiot Dylan has them,:cool: And like Dylan and others, Sam never cheats on Sophia to earn her love.

Dylan is completely stupid and asshole like his father (Liam) because they are the ones who get Sophia into great danger.:confused::mad:
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These kind of fans are literally the reason why i started despising Sam's character more. Reminds me of toxic fanbases like the BTS ones and some specific anime fanbases.
 
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Sabertooth__ said:
These kind of fans are literally the reason why i started despising Sam's character more. Reminds me of toxic fanbases like the BTS ones and some specific anime fanbases.
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But harmless. Even the most ardent Sam fan doesn't have anywhere near the sway that even a moderate Dylan fan does. What plot has been changed because Sam fans were unhappy with something? Or Ellie and Patricia for that matter?

The same can't be said for toxic Dylan fans.
 
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Alley_Cat said:
But harmless. Even the most ardent Sam fan doesn't have anywhere near the sway that even a moderate Dylan fan does. What plot has been changed because Sam fans were unhappy with something? Or Ellie and Patricia for that matter?

The same can't be said for toxic Dylan fans.
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Atleast they haven't been coming here and irritating us by continuosly praising Sam like they are in his cult or something. I always see posters like this for Sam. Very rarely have we seen any other group, be it Ellie, Dylan, Patricia, Aiden fans belittle other storylines.
 
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Allan Sam5 said:
I don't understand why everyone is crazy about Dylan and his routes, I don't know.:rolleyes::unsure: He looks like a asshole to look at. :LOL::ROFLMAO::devilish: A good gentleman in the story is just Sam.:love: He loves and cares for Sophia so much. Also Sophia loves sam more than Dylan. :love:We are lucky Sophia does not love Dylan and L&P does not give Dylan a love route. :devilish::ROFLMAO:;)Sophia and Ellie are just limited to sam, they don't want sam to share little idiot Dylan has them,:cool: And like Dylan and others, Sam never cheats on Sophia to earn her love.

Dylan is completely stupid and asshole like his father (Liam) because they are the ones who get Sophia into great danger.:confused::mad:
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the reason is very simple. Sam is the boy next door. A relationship between a married woman and the boy next door is a little out of the ordinary for a "decent" woman but still plausible. In the end Sam is just anyone, nowadays he doesn't scandalize anyone. Dylan is Sophia's son, and a relationship between the two of them is incest to the fullest. Maximum transgression of all the rules and taboos of humanity. In a fantasy game or tale, transgression like this will always have more appeal than flirting with any guy. People who download this type of escape games, especially those who pay for it legally, want to unleash their imagination at the highest level because the human mind needs to escape and transgress. A sentimental romance between a woman and the neighbor does not transgress anything and does not make your mind escape from anything.
 
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Mr.Gamer__ said:
Don't know about Ellie but Dylan will definetely have sex with Sophia. It is not going to be just a voyeristic scene. How do I know that? Because I asked L&P a year ago and he confirmed it. I don't remember his exact words but I'm gonna assume Dylan/Ellie sex scene will also happen.
But its going to be a very long wait and thats an understatement.
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If it is realy true we gonna live a f* dream (y)
 
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Alley_Cat said:
We have too many branches as of now. As I've been continuously ranting, everything that isn't directly connected to Sophia and one of the LIs should be removed (or at least postponed to DLC) if it means getting the game finished within a reasonable timeframe.

I'd even advocate removal of Aiden's tasks and any chance of Ellie nude sunbathing in the backyard if it meant we could get the game finished.
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say whatttttttt???? so you just want the end of the game, removing character, cuting scenes and task, it don't goin to make the game any good, don't care if it takes forever since I am having fun it is OK.
 
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SuperPerv96 said:
I think its quite the opposite, most people here probably agree with me whe i say that they dont care about that scene, the animations were good, but theres better animations, i i dont care for Jennifer, for me it was a waist of time
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she just start give her a chance before you deny her presence on the game, let's see what secrets she had to spyce the game.
 
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