Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Passing out with shoes on
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The result was delete. Despite similarities between the supposed tradition and the court case, there is no actual evidence of a connection. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:34, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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No reliable sources support the notability of this topic. The first source is a facetious "College rules" handbook, and the second source refers to a court case in which a defendant was laying in a bed pretending to be asleep (not passed out). OhNoitsJamie Talk 00:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - as original research -- Whpq (talk) 19:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- There are two books cited. Both are available on google books, if you would like to verify. I think the one of them has been inaccurately described as "facetious". There may be a touch of levity in describing these as "rules", but all of the "rules" describe actual, bona fide traditions. These reliable sources make this not original research. Savidan 23:24, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I read both sources. The "rules" writeup was a writer's arbitrary set of rules, not part of any unified tradition. As I said before, the second source only mentions a defendant who still had his shoes on and was pretending to be asleep (not passed out), which really has nothing to do with the topic of this article. OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:39, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- There are two books and the legal case. Perhaps I haven't made it clear enough, but whether the defendant was actually awake/passed out/asleep was a subject of dispute in the case. Savidan 02:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The article is about two different things; college students getting drunk and passing out, and a single court case where whether or not a subject was asleep played a role in the case; a case that was hardly a landmark, at that. I.e., you're taking a phrase that's gotten some passing mention in jocular "College life guides" and tying that into a court case that really has nothing to do with the former. Yes, you have three sources, but those sources fail to establish that this is a singular, notable concept versus a phrase that's figured into a couple of contexts. (Here's the Google books link for the College 101 source, and here are the two paragraphs from the case that mention the word "shoes" (neither of which is in the summary of the case). OhNoitsJamie Talk 02:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- There are two books and the legal case. Perhaps I haven't made it clear enough, but whether the defendant was actually awake/passed out/asleep was a subject of dispute in the case. Savidan 02:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I read both sources. The "rules" writeup was a writer's arbitrary set of rules, not part of any unified tradition. As I said before, the second source only mentions a defendant who still had his shoes on and was pretending to be asleep (not passed out), which really has nothing to do with the topic of this article. OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:39, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete it's WP:SYNTH to assert any sort of relationship between college-age drunken jackassery and a court case in which the the wearing of shoes was merely a bit of evidence against the establishment of a particular legal standing. As a phenomenon, these two subjects are unrelated and neither hold great encyclopedic value. The mentions in the two books is trivial. — Scientizzle 14:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, not notable. --Nuujinn (talk) 01:36, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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