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who character are you think that is the traitor?
Jul 20, 2016 4:30 PM
#51
I think its Ryota Mitarai he was in the despair classroom after all, just how was he the only one to resist falling into despair like the rest of his classmates? |
Jul 21, 2016 1:30 AM
#52
hyper00 said: I think its Ryota Mitarai he was in the despair classroom after all, just how was he the only one to resist falling into despair like the rest of his classmates? That's the ultimate imposter disguised as Ryota. |
Jul 21, 2016 5:38 AM
#53
yiruma123 said: hyper00 said: I think its Ryota Mitarai he was in the despair classroom after all, just how was he the only one to resist falling into despair like the rest of his classmates? That's the ultimate imposter disguised as Ryota. hes still a student of the class just looks as if Ryota doesnt (and possibly never will attend class) he is an animator so hes probably busy doing his frames |
Jul 22, 2016 11:18 PM
#54
I have suspicions on Mitarai, he came late with panda eyes. Probably he was setting up the animations for Monokuma, since he's the Ultimate Animator. I like how Yukizome Chisa is the most voted for now. DR1 plot twist all over again |
Jul 25, 2016 6:05 PM
#55
I wish I could admend my vote to Kirigiri. After re-watching Episode Two: Here's why: http://anotherstatsguy.tumblr.com/post/147972455194/look-at-these-four-photos-i-now-believe-the The sprite Monokuma used is similar to Kirigiri. Look at where the sprite goes after 'offing' Chisa. It overlays on top of Kirgiri. |
Jul 26, 2016 1:15 AM
#56
i think after episode 3 we can throw away two pieces of evidence people give about why Chisa's the mastermind 1- No death music (because nobody who died except the security guards had the music) 2- Different death then in the opening (episode 3's death) |
Jul 31, 2016 6:13 PM
#57
I think for me the mastermind is Ryouta Mitarai I just think that his nice and shy personality is facade but who knows. |
Aug 1, 2016 12:00 PM
#58
Aug 2, 2016 6:37 AM
#59
Aug 2, 2016 7:04 AM
#60
I think there is mastermind and traitor. One who create the whole mess and one who swim in that mess. |
Aug 2, 2016 2:36 PM
#61
Aug 2, 2016 2:39 PM
#62
Aug 2, 2016 8:33 PM
#63
Kuroneko said: i think after episode 3 we can throw away two pieces of evidence people give about why Chisa's the mastermind 1- No death music (because nobody who died except the security guards had the music) 2- Different death then in the opening (episode 3's death) Yep! I think the same... Chisa was almost a family with the remnants of despair , I think at the end of Zetsubou Hen will see her stand on the side of Junko (after some great shit ) and support your students , or perhaps she's just doing it to save even the remaining in a coma since the Munakata would not have pity or mercy . Monaca was only introduced randomly and want to cause chaos , it is rather the agressova but not the mind behind the game , perhaps Chisa is even dead, she planned it to hold all and save his former students, now I do not know if she waited for Monaca , probably not, Monaca took advantage of the hacking game , as in Super Dangan Ronpa 2 . Chisa just wanted to lock all there, but after Monaca killed her , she could start the game, |
Aug 3, 2016 6:34 AM
#64
I don't understand if people really suspect Hagakure or they just want him to die. Suspected Miaya before but episode 4 tells me to throw the suspicion off of her cause I really don't think Miaya is the traitor (even if Monaca is supposedly controlling her). There could be a real Miaya and Monaca just replaced her. Also suspected Tengan since episode 2 but now he has earned my respect for that cool bad-ass fight scene (and that he seemed like he is going to die). So now my top 3 suspects are: 1) Ryota Mitarai 2) Koichi Kizakura 3) Chisa Yukizome |
Aug 3, 2016 10:38 AM
#65
I will be posting this in a spoiler tag since it will spoil things up to episode 4. Since this is discussing who the traitor is, I wont give my thoughts on who the mastermind could be if it's not the same person. I rule out everyone with a 0% chance and those with 1% I still consider but it's unlikely, I will change it each episode. I want to give my thoughts to every character and who I feel is most suspicious. With the revelation of Monaca controlling Miaya, I don't think we have to look any further for a traitor right? Wrong. There could be two traitors, Monaca could be the mastermind, Monaca could be there for the lolz and giggles. She could also very well be the only traitor but we will see. Makoto Naegi - Not much to say about him, people should know him by now, I honestly doubt he can be the traitor, this is the finale to this Danganronpa and giving the main protagonist traitor status would be weird unless they're going for a very bad end. Chance: 1% Kyoko Kirigiri - Once again, I don't have much to say about her either, she's the female protagonist and I doubt they'd make her be the traitor unless, once again, they go for a very bad end. Chance: 1% Aoi Asahina - No description either, people should know her by now, I doubt she'll be the traitor either, what's weird with her though is that she's stuck in the 13th branch while all the other survivors went into the 14th branch. She's the only one from the 13th branch there and not even the head of the 13th branch is there, weird right? Chance: 1% 16th Participant/Hagakure - I can't really comment on this, we still don't know who the 16th participant is and what Monokuma said in episode 4 in the begin could go either way, if it's not Hagakure then there is quite a chance for the 16th participant to be the traitor, but isn't that too easy? Chance: 5% Chisa Yukizome - The first person to die and one of the main characters in Side:Despair. There is definitely something off about her, she was a spy and the substitute class teacher to all the Despair cast, she could very well have fallen into despair as well and her body could be a robot body. With Monaca being revealed to be in the game at episode 4, Nagito could very well have told her who in the Future Foundation isn't a good person and there's only one person he would've known - Chisa Yukizome. There's also the fact that the game supposedly started with her death, which is the only death to be without knowledge of the games rules which can be highly suspicious. I don't think she IS the traitor though but there is a chance. With Kyoko investigating her body right now, I will either raise my chance or lower it even more by next episode. Chance: 1% Kyousuke Munakata - Someone who relies a lot on his ideals, supposedly the other Hope to the Future Foundation and the opposite to Makoto Naegi's Hope, I have as much suspicion on him as I have on Makoto, the guy strikes me as a rival to Makoto similarly to how Byakuya and Makoto was or Hajime and Nagito was. Chance: 1% Jyuzo Sakakura - The right hand man of Kyousuke. One of the most hated characters in the entire Danganronpa franchise for messing up a lot of things. A character appearing in the manga Killer Killer, which apparently ties into the anime too. That bit of information is suspicious already since he's part of the manga. I don't think he is the traitor though, it would be hard to believe by now as he's seeing clearly following his own ideals as well as Kyousuke's. Just a major asshole if anything. Chance: 1% Ando Ruruka - One of the three people that got expelled in Hopes Peak Academy, a school so tolerant that you don't even have to attend the school regularly. Now the question is, how exactly DID they get expelled within a school so tolerant? Did they perhaps find out some secret by the big heads in HPA on accident? Who knows, we don't really have many information regarding the trio in the same year. Also has a habit of blaming Seiko for the expulsion and seems to love Sonosuke and would hate it if anyone would betray her. Fishy. Chance: 1% Sonosuke Izayoi - One of the three people that got expelled in HPA. Seems to be obedient to Ando, could be a case of accomplice following traitor, but I doubt it. Almost no information on this guy either. Why does he side with Ando though? He also seems to blame Seiko for the expulsion. Chance: 1% Seiko Kimura - One of the three people that got expelled in HPA. Seems to be a loner. She doesn't look to have many friends and as a result we don't get too see much information about her. She seems to blame Ando for the expulsion at HPA. She's also very good with drugs and poison etc. which could lead to her developing the NG codes? Maybe. She also seemed to think Ando was the traitor but then later changed it to Ando and Sonosuke. Chance: 1% Bandai Daisaku - The second victim in the killing. He died from his NG code and we got to clearly see how he died. Chance: 0% Great Gozu - The third victim in the killing. He was the bodyguard of Kazuo and tried to help Makoto. He died in a closed room with Miaya, Makoto and Aoi which would explain how he died. Miaya probably killed him. Chance: 0% Kazuo Tengan - The former head of HPA. A person who seems to be morally good. He always seems to go for the right choice, he's a very kind person too. Revealed in episode 4 that he's actually very strong and tried to protect Makoto. A high chance of him dying next episode seeing as he's stuck. Chance: 1% Ryota Mitarai This guy just screams suspicious. Firstly, he was late to the meeting and met up with Kyoko outside the females bathroom and at the same time Aoi discovered dead police bodies in the bathroom. The Ultimate Imposter in Side:Despair is going as Ryota for unknown reasons. We also see Ryota standing next to him in the opening meaning he'll make an appearance in Side:Despair. He seems to be obsessed with hope and wants to be like Makoto. Chance: 25% Miaya Gekkogahara - A robot body that was most likely human before. I would rule out original Miaya and assume she's dead. Monaca is the one controlling Miaya's body and is the most likely candidate for being the traitor, obviously. Chance: 35% Koichi Kizakura - Another suspicious person. His line in episode 3 "Meet with that girl" is supposedly Kyoko as said by himself that he was looking for Kyoko in episode 4. What was mysterious though, is that he was seen looking at the screen as if he was communicating with either Monokuma, Monokuma's identity (If it's not Monaca) or Monaca. He has sharp intuition. A thing I haven't seen being mentioned was that Koichi is originally the class teacher to the Despair cast, he could have fallen into despair as much as Chisa could but unlike Chisa, he is actually alive. He could very well have taken over the duty of being their class teacher later on in the series. Chance: 25% My vote for now would go to Koichi even though Miaya is the most likely candidate. |
HBSSocietyAug 3, 2016 11:12 AM
"Please call me... The Ultimate Hope." |
Aug 3, 2016 12:41 PM
#66
HBSSociety said: I will be posting this in a spoiler tag since it will spoil things up to episode 4. Since this is discussing who the traitor is, I wont give my thoughts on who the mastermind could be if it's not the same person. I rule out everyone with a 0% chance and those with 1% I still consider but it's unlikely, I will change it each episode. I want to give my thoughts to every character and who I feel is most suspicious. With the revelation of Monaca controlling Miaya, I don't think we have to look any further for a traitor right? Wrong. There could be two traitors, Monaca could be the mastermind, Monaca could be there for the lolz and giggles. She could also very well be the only traitor but we will see. Makoto Naegi - Not much to say about him, people should know him by now, I honestly doubt he can be the traitor, this is the finale to this Danganronpa and giving the main protagonist traitor status would be weird unless they're going for a very bad end. Chance: 1% Kyoko Kirigiri - Once again, I don't have much to say about her either, she's the female protagonist and I doubt they'd make her be the traitor unless, once again, they go for a very bad end. Chance: 1% Aoi Asahina - No description either, people should know her by now, I doubt she'll be the traitor either, what's weird with her though is that she's stuck in the 13th branch while all the other survivors went into the 14th branch. She's the only one from the 13th branch there and not even the head of the 13th branch is there, weird right? Chance: 1% 16th Participant/Hagakure - I can't really comment on this, we still don't know who the 16th participant is and what Monokuma said in episode 4 in the begin could go either way, if it's not Hagakure then there is quite a chance for the 16th participant to be the traitor, but isn't that too easy? Chance: 5% Chisa Yukizome - The first person to die and one of the main characters in Side:Despair. There is definitely something off about her, she was a spy and the substitute class teacher to all the Despair cast, she could very well have fallen into despair as well and her body could be a robot body. With Monaca being revealed to be in the game at episode 4, Nagito could very well have told her who in the Future Foundation isn't a good person and there's only one person he would've known - Chisa Yukizome. There's also the fact that the game supposedly started with her death, which is the only death to be without knowledge of the games rules which can be highly suspicious. I don't think she IS the traitor though but there is a chance. With Kyoko investigating her body right now, I will either raise my chance or lower it even more by next episode. Chance: 1% Kyousuke Munakata - Someone who relies a lot on his ideals, supposedly the other Hope to the Future Foundation and the opposite to Makoto Naegi's Hope, I have as much suspicion on him as I have on Makoto, the guy strikes me as a rival to Makoto similarly to how Byakuya and Makoto was or Hajime and Nagito was. Chance: 1% Jyuzo Sakakura - The right hand man of Kyousuke. One of the most hated characters in the entire Danganronpa franchise for messing up a lot of things. A character appearing in the manga Killer Killer, which apparently ties into the anime too. That bit of information is suspicious already since he's part of the manga. I don't think he is the traitor though, it would be hard to believe by now as he's seeing clearly following his own ideals as well as Kyousuke's. Just a major asshole if anything. Chance: 1% Ando Ruruka - One of the three people that got expelled in Hopes Peak Academy, a school so tolerant that you don't even have to attend the school regularly. Now the question is, how exactly DID they get expelled within a school so tolerant? Did they perhaps find out some secret by the big heads in HPA on accident? Who knows, we don't really have many information regarding the trio in the same year. Also has a habit of blaming Seiko for the expulsion and seems to love Sonosuke and would hate it if anyone would betray her. Fishy. Chance: 1% Sonosuke Izayoi - One of the three people that got expelled in HPA. Seems to be obedient to Ando, could be a case of accomplice following traitor, but I doubt it. Almost no information on this guy either. Why does he side with Ando though? He also seems to blame Seiko for the expulsion. Chance: 1% Seiko Kimura - One of the three people that got expelled in HPA. Seems to be a loner. She doesn't look to have many friends and as a result we don't get too see much information about her. She seems to blame Ando for the expulsion at HPA. She's also very good with drugs and poison etc. which could lead to her developing the NG codes? Maybe. She also seemed to think Ando was the traitor but then later changed it to Ando and Sonosuke. Chance: 1% Bandai Daisaku - The second victim in the killing. He died from his NG code and we got to clearly see how he died. Chance: 0% Great Gozu - The third victim in the killing. He was the bodyguard of Kazuo and tried to help Makoto. He died in a closed room with Miaya, Makoto and Aoi which would explain how he died. Miaya probably killed him. Chance: 0% Kazuo Tengan - The former head of HPA. A person who seems to be morally good. He always seems to go for the right choice, he's a very kind person too. Revealed in episode 4 that he's actually very strong and tried to protect Makoto. A high chance of him dying next episode seeing as he's stuck. Chance: 1% Ryota Mitarai This guy just screams suspicious. Firstly, he was late to the meeting and met up with Kyoko outside the females bathroom and at the same time Aoi discovered dead police bodies in the bathroom. The Ultimate Imposter in Side:Despair is going as Ryota for unknown reasons. We also see Ryota standing next to him in the opening meaning he'll make an appearance in Side:Despair. He seems to be obsessed with hope and wants to be like Makoto. Chance: 25% Miaya Gekkogahara - A robot body that was most likely human before. I would rule out original Miaya and assume she's dead. Monaca is the one controlling Miaya's body and is the most likely candidate for being the traitor, obviously. Chance: 35% Koichi Kizakura - Another suspicious person. His line in episode 3 "Meet with that girl" is supposedly Kyoko as said by himself that he was looking for Kyoko in episode 4. What was mysterious though, is that he was seen looking at the screen as if he was communicating with either Monokuma, Monokuma's identity (If it's not Monaca) or Monaca. He has sharp intuition. A thing I haven't seen being mentioned was that Koichi is originally the class teacher to the Despair cast, he could have fallen into despair as much as Chisa could but unlike Chisa, he is actually alive. He could very well have taken over the duty of being their class teacher later on in the series. Chance: 25% My vote for now would go to Koichi even though Miaya is the most likely candidate. Interesting ideas I only watched through once so far and wasn't paying much attention during ep.1 so I missed the Ryota clue about where the bodies were found. Perhaps he was even coerced to hold the gas canister, either before or after witnessing the guards dead/being killed?(Which is why he always looks so dreadful/anxiety-filled- how come ultimate imposter doesn't look like this?) Also I didn't notice the Koichi "Time to go meet that girl" connection having ambiguous meaning, then again I just saw Ep.4 so the first assumption is Kirigiri but Monaca is just as likely. A team of Koichi and Monaca would also explain him pointing at Miaya as the traitor- he thought it would be "fun" and make the game more interesting. A possible explanation is that Koichi was also a teacher of Monaca- and perhaps he has grown disillusioned towards HPA and believes it is counterproductive to hope; until he grows to think the future foundation itself is hypocritical and instead sides with Monaca. That is just completely made up speculation though. Look forward to keeping up on your theories if you continue to do so. |
Aug 3, 2016 1:01 PM
#67
Aug 3, 2016 1:47 PM
#68
Tevens said: isn't it already clear enough ? episode 4 final scene ? i think that's the traitor ? That's true enough, but this is danganronpa after all and going by the games, both traitors were revealed in chapter 4 and 5 respectively which is late into the game. She's almost guaranteed to be the traitor but it's just weird how she was revealed this early, there could potentially be a second traitor or something along those lines. StevePen387 said: HBSSociety said: I will be posting this in a spoiler tag since it will spoil things up to episode 4. Since this is discussing who the traitor is, I wont give my thoughts on who the mastermind could be if it's not the same person. I rule out everyone with a 0% chance and those with 1% I still consider but it's unlikely, I will change it each episode. I want to give my thoughts to every character and who I feel is most suspicious. With the revelation of Monaca controlling Miaya, I don't think we have to look any further for a traitor right? Wrong. There could be two traitors, Monaca could be the mastermind, Monaca could be there for the lolz and giggles. She could also very well be the only traitor but we will see. Makoto Naegi - Not much to say about him, people should know him by now, I honestly doubt he can be the traitor, this is the finale to this Danganronpa and giving the main protagonist traitor status would be weird unless they're going for a very bad end. Chance: 1% Kyoko Kirigiri - Once again, I don't have much to say about her either, she's the female protagonist and I doubt they'd make her be the traitor unless, once again, they go for a very bad end. Chance: 1% Aoi Asahina - No description either, people should know her by now, I doubt she'll be the traitor either, what's weird with her though is that she's stuck in the 13th branch while all the other survivors went into the 14th branch. She's the only one from the 13th branch there and not even the head of the 13th branch is there, weird right? Chance: 1% 16th Participant/Hagakure - I can't really comment on this, we still don't know who the 16th participant is and what Monokuma said in episode 4 in the begin could go either way, if it's not Hagakure then there is quite a chance for the 16th participant to be the traitor, but isn't that too easy? Chance: 5% Chisa Yukizome - The first person to die and one of the main characters in Side:Despair. There is definitely something off about her, she was a spy and the substitute class teacher to all the Despair cast, she could very well have fallen into despair as well and her body could be a robot body. With Monaca being revealed to be in the game at episode 4, Nagito could very well have told her who in the Future Foundation isn't a good person and there's only one person he would've known - Chisa Yukizome. There's also the fact that the game supposedly started with her death, which is the only death to be without knowledge of the games rules which can be highly suspicious. I don't think she IS the traitor though but there is a chance. With Kyoko investigating her body right now, I will either raise my chance or lower it even more by next episode. Chance: 1% Kyousuke Munakata - Someone who relies a lot on his ideals, supposedly the other Hope to the Future Foundation and the opposite to Makoto Naegi's Hope, I have as much suspicion on him as I have on Makoto, the guy strikes me as a rival to Makoto similarly to how Byakuya and Makoto was or Hajime and Nagito was. Chance: 1% Jyuzo Sakakura - The right hand man of Kyousuke. One of the most hated characters in the entire Danganronpa franchise for messing up a lot of things. A character appearing in the manga Killer Killer, which apparently ties into the anime too. That bit of information is suspicious already since he's part of the manga. I don't think he is the traitor though, it would be hard to believe by now as he's seeing clearly following his own ideals as well as Kyousuke's. Just a major asshole if anything. Chance: 1% Ando Ruruka - One of the three people that got expelled in Hopes Peak Academy, a school so tolerant that you don't even have to attend the school regularly. Now the question is, how exactly DID they get expelled within a school so tolerant? Did they perhaps find out some secret by the big heads in HPA on accident? Who knows, we don't really have many information regarding the trio in the same year. Also has a habit of blaming Seiko for the expulsion and seems to love Sonosuke and would hate it if anyone would betray her. Fishy. Chance: 1% Sonosuke Izayoi - One of the three people that got expelled in HPA. Seems to be obedient to Ando, could be a case of accomplice following traitor, but I doubt it. Almost no information on this guy either. Why does he side with Ando though? He also seems to blame Seiko for the expulsion. Chance: 1% Seiko Kimura - One of the three people that got expelled in HPA. Seems to be a loner. She doesn't look to have many friends and as a result we don't get too see much information about her. She seems to blame Ando for the expulsion at HPA. She's also very good with drugs and poison etc. which could lead to her developing the NG codes? Maybe. She also seemed to think Ando was the traitor but then later changed it to Ando and Sonosuke. Chance: 1% Bandai Daisaku - The second victim in the killing. He died from his NG code and we got to clearly see how he died. Chance: 0% Great Gozu - The third victim in the killing. He was the bodyguard of Kazuo and tried to help Makoto. He died in a closed room with Miaya, Makoto and Aoi which would explain how he died. Miaya probably killed him. Chance: 0% Kazuo Tengan - The former head of HPA. A person who seems to be morally good. He always seems to go for the right choice, he's a very kind person too. Revealed in episode 4 that he's actually very strong and tried to protect Makoto. A high chance of him dying next episode seeing as he's stuck. Chance: 1% Ryota Mitarai This guy just screams suspicious. Firstly, he was late to the meeting and met up with Kyoko outside the females bathroom and at the same time Aoi discovered dead police bodies in the bathroom. The Ultimate Imposter in Side:Despair is going as Ryota for unknown reasons. We also see Ryota standing next to him in the opening meaning he'll make an appearance in Side:Despair. He seems to be obsessed with hope and wants to be like Makoto. Chance: 25% Miaya Gekkogahara - A robot body that was most likely human before. I would rule out original Miaya and assume she's dead. Monaca is the one controlling Miaya's body and is the most likely candidate for being the traitor, obviously. Chance: 35% Koichi Kizakura - Another suspicious person. His line in episode 3 "Meet with that girl" is supposedly Kyoko as said by himself that he was looking for Kyoko in episode 4. What was mysterious though, is that he was seen looking at the screen as if he was communicating with either Monokuma, Monokuma's identity (If it's not Monaca) or Monaca. He has sharp intuition. A thing I haven't seen being mentioned was that Koichi is originally the class teacher to the Despair cast, he could have fallen into despair as much as Chisa could but unlike Chisa, he is actually alive. He could very well have taken over the duty of being their class teacher later on in the series. Chance: 25% My vote for now would go to Koichi even though Miaya is the most likely candidate. Interesting ideas I only watched through once so far and wasn't paying much attention during ep.1 so I missed the Ryota clue about where the bodies were found. Perhaps he was even coerced to hold the gas canister, either before or after witnessing the guards dead/being killed?(Which is why he always looks so dreadful/anxiety-filled- how come ultimate imposter doesn't look like this?) Also I didn't notice the Koichi "Time to go meet that girl" connection having ambiguous meaning, then again I just saw Ep.4 so the first assumption is Kirigiri but Monaca is just as likely. A team of Koichi and Monaca would also explain him pointing at Miaya as the traitor- he thought it would be "fun" and make the game more interesting. A possible explanation is that Koichi was also a teacher of Monaca- and perhaps he has grown disillusioned towards HPA and believes it is counterproductive to hope; until he grows to think the future foundation itself is hypocritical and instead sides with Monaca. That is just completely made up speculation though. Look forward to keeping up on your theories if you continue to do so. Now that you mention it, it's oddly weird that Koichi, who's suspicious, pointed at Miaya, who's revealed to be the supposed traitor. I'll have to play Ultra Despair Girls to see the story of Monaca (I've read about her last year but can't remember), but him being her teacher could be possible unless that game denies it, good point though. Yeah, I'll continue my theories each episode unless it's definitely confirmed Miaya being the traitor next episode. |
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Aug 8, 2016 10:55 AM
#69
When we are thinking about this critically, there are some things that parallel this to DR1. 1. Naegi is the prime target and scapegoat, considering that this occured the moment he arrived on base. 2. Chisa is killed as a demonstration, just like Ikusaba was in DR1. 3. We are given the revelation of who the "traitor" is, just like DR1 for Sakura. My gut feeling is that Chisa Yukizome is still alive, and her corpse is just a double. I feel like Chisa is behind this mess. 1. From what we can tell, Juzo and Chisa are people who would do anything for Munakata. 2. We can also see that in the case that every leader in the FF dies, Munakata immediately becomes sole authority. 3. Chisa has demonstrated abnormal skills like stealing a sword from the Ultimate Swordswoman. Top Grade difficulty right there. 4. She is paralleled with Junko in the opening of the Future Arc. Knives and all that. 5. She was the teacher for both Class 78 and (probably) Hinata's Reserve Course class. 6. Munakata's reaction to Tengan's words. |
Aug 8, 2016 12:01 PM
#70
it has to be Juzo if its Chisa this anime s an asspull at best |
Aug 8, 2016 2:18 PM
#71
Kuroneko said: it has to be Juzo if its Chisa this anime s an asspull at best That really depends on how they explain it. But I feel like it won't be the case. Tengan saying Munakata sacrificed Chisa seems to indicate that he thinks she's dead (and thus not the killer) Maybe it's Bandai :p |
SirofcoffeeAug 8, 2016 2:37 PM
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Aug 8, 2016 2:54 PM
#72
I personally don't think we have enough information at this point to do anything more than make wild guesses. My current bet is Kyousuke (possibly being mind-controlled by one of Monaca's gadgets,) or Sonosuke (since he could have made the daggers the attacker is using.) Both theories have problems, of course, but it's the best I can come up with at this stage. However, I've pretty well ruled out Chisa and Miaya/Monaca. I think Kodaka is going to have something more surprising than that planned out. trannon1 said: 4. She is paralleled with Junko in the opening of the Future Arc. Knives and all that. You mean the box cutters? What does that have to do with Junko? |
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Aug 9, 2016 2:45 AM
#73
I think Koichi is the traitor, but the attacker is someone else entirely. Perhaps the sixteenth student? Monaca merely found out about the game going to happen so she kidnapped the real Miaya and made a robot replica of her so she could spectate in the game. That's my guess at least. |
Aug 17, 2016 6:01 PM
#74
Personally I don't trust Mitarai one bit So I think it's him |
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Sep 9, 2016 7:58 AM
#75
No doubt it's Chisa. In fact I raise the bet, and guess that the first person she ever killed was Chiaki Nanami. I think it's important that Chisa is the main character of Danganronpa 3 Despair Arc, I think it's unlikely that she would have come out of it unscathed. And given the fact that the real Chiaki Nanami's fate is such a mystery at this point, I think that would be the most despair-inducing outcome. In addition, the fact that she was supposedly killed at the start of the show doesn't mean much, given that that is pretty much what happened to Junko Enoshima at the start of Danganronpa Trigger Happy Havoc. And most importantly, the biggest clue that it's Chisa is the way that Munakata reacted when Chairman Tengan told him. I guess it does beg the question, how the hell would Tengan know in the first place but I'm sure there's an explanation for that. |
Sep 9, 2016 9:03 AM
#76
Tfw you realize this is all just a gigantic game of Town of Salem.... In other news, I don't wanna believe the Junko switcheroo Chisa manuever at the very beginning. I will be very cheesed. But if it were to happen, I wanna say on the offchance Nanami is not dead, they performed the Junko-Mukuro switcheroo. I'm probably looking too into the portraits on the wiki, but meh, I look forward to next week. |
Sep 9, 2016 10:07 AM
#77
At this point, I think the plot of Mirai-hen goes like this: 1. The instigator, aka the mastermind, is Chisa Yukizone. She had the underground half of the tower built (or knew about it), modified it to look like it was ruined, installed the monitors and then drugged and moved everyone below, possibly with help of some other Remnants of Despair 2. She contacted Mitarai, who seems to have hidden his involvement with Junko, and blackmailed him to help her create the Monokuma video. This is why Monokuma only speaks once and doesn't hold conversations: he is just a video footage created by Mitarai 3. She also contacted Monaca for help, which is why Monaca knows what is going on. But Monaca refuses to help and instead just observes. Chisa has to leave her alone as otherwise Monaca might ruin her entire plan 4. Chisa eliminated herself first so that Munakata could fall into despair and to avoid ruining the plan by hesitsating or something 5. The bracelets drug everyone, but Mitarai. Mitarai uses his phone to find his victim, wake them up and play the animation that then forces them to commit suicide (this is why there are so many monokuma monitors even though Monokuma doesn't talk to anyone to them). He has to do this because his bracelet's rule is to play an animation otherwise he will die. So Monokuma's rules apply in two scenarios: either someone kills Mitarai (and thus murders stop) or Mitarai rejects to kill anyone and murders stop because he is poisoned. Since he is a coward, he doesn't dare to tell anyone that he is practically responsible for the world's destruction 6. Chisa's goal is to turn her beloved Munakata into an Ultimate Despair. Mitarai, who envies Neagi, wants to ensure himself that Naegi is no different than anyone else and thus wants to have him fall to Despair as well. This might be the strongest rope that Chisa holds over Mitarai. And if Mitarai survives all this while everyone else dies, his grief would drive him crazy and turn him into an Ultimate Despair 7. At the end of the show, Mitarai will confront Naegi, Munakata and other survivors and try to kill them with his animations. But Naegi will resist and his words will wake up the Hope in others, saving them from Mitarai's animations. Thus, Mitarai loses the game 8. Munakata will then try to kill Mitarai and Naegi will try to stop him. Then the 77th class will jump in and save Mitarai from Munakata, and be living proofs that Munakata is plain wrong. A peace will be then made and Naegi will inspire Mitarai to return to his original goal: to make an Anime that will fill the world with Hope Well, that's all just my two cents. |
NayraelSep 9, 2016 10:15 AM
Sep 9, 2016 2:19 PM
#78
I suspected Chisa from the first episode, it think shes the culprit |
Sep 9, 2016 3:22 PM
#79
Chisa Yukizome seems like the obvious conclusion at this point, but I'd be seriously disappointed if that turned out to be correct. Danganronpa excels at completely unexpected twist endings. Chisa being the mastermind is something people have been predicting since they learned she taught the 77th class. It would be a letdown for it to be something that's such a clear possibility. Same with Chiaki. Personally, my favorite theory is the one about Gozu faking his death, exploiting the fact that nobody knows what his face looks like. It doesn't seem like the most likely possibility, but I like it better than most of the other theories. I seriously doubt the "animation on the monitor causes suicide" theory. The victims were all stabbed through the heart. There's no way Chisa, Gozu, and Seiko could have struck those crazy poses after getting knifed like that. Someone could have come along and moved them later, I suppose, but what would be the point of having a flesh-and-blood traitor in the group if the animations were used to kill everyone? |
Important Note: I no longer - in any way, shape, or form - consider myself a moral nihilist (even in my old, convoluted definition of the term). I very much do believe there is such a thing as objective good and evil. In addition, I apologize for any of the posts I've made that are rude, aggressive, or otherwise unbecoming. I've always striven to walk a path befitting a follower of Christ, and now recognize some of my old comments here as misguided if not outright wrong. If you happen upon them, pray do not let them darken your view of the God I serve. He is kind, even if I, at times, have not been. |
Sep 9, 2016 10:39 PM
#80
I think it's Yukizome. I don't think she's really dead. And anyone that cheerful is definitely a psychopath. |
臭い- |
Sep 10, 2016 5:37 AM
#81
I used to think it was Ryota, but now episode 9 (both arcs) are really giving me a whole bunch of reasons to suspect Chisa. Assuming Chisa is the mastermind, I really doubt she would be dead. If she is still alive, then I just have one small question: WHOSE BODY DOES THAT BELONG TO?????(Chisa's corpse). I have an extremely bad feeling on the owner of that body assuming it isn't Chisa's. If my theory is right, then I'm gonna cry myself to death. Nayrael said: That.....is actually very plausible now that I think about it. It would explain not just Chisa's but some part of Ryota's actions (I found a few of his actions slightly suspicious). At this point, I think the plot of Mirai-hen goes like this: 1. The instigator, aka the mastermind, is Chisa Yukizone. She had the underground half of the tower built (or knew about it), modified it to look like it was ruined, installed the monitors and then drugged and moved everyone below, possibly with help of some other Remnants of Despair 2. She contacted Mitarai, who seems to have hidden his involvement with Junko, and blackmailed him to help her create the Monokuma video. This is why Monokuma only speaks once and doesn't hold conversations: he is just a video footage created by Mitarai 3. She also contacted Monaca for help, which is why Monaca knows what is going on. But Monaca refuses to help and instead just observes. Chisa has to leave her alone as otherwise Monaca might ruin her entire plan 4. Chisa eliminated herself first so that Munakata could fall into despair and to avoid ruining the plan by hesitsating or something 5. The bracelets drug everyone, but Mitarai. Mitarai uses his phone to find his victim, wake them up and play the animation that then forces them to commit suicide (this is why there are so many monokuma monitors even though Monokuma doesn't talk to anyone to them). He has to do this because his bracelet's rule is to play an animation otherwise he will die. So Monokuma's rules apply in two scenarios: either someone kills Mitarai (and thus murders stop) or Mitarai rejects to kill anyone and murders stop because he is poisoned. Since he is a coward, he doesn't dare to tell anyone that he is practically responsible for the world's destruction 6. Chisa's goal is to turn her beloved Munakata into an Ultimate Despair. Mitarai, who envies Neagi, wants to ensure himself that Naegi is no different than anyone else and thus wants to have him fall to Despair as well. This might be the strongest rope that Chisa holds over Mitarai. And if Mitarai survives all this while everyone else dies, his grief would drive him crazy and turn him into an Ultimate Despair 7. At the end of the show, Mitarai will confront Naegi, Munakata and other survivors and try to kill them with his animations. But Naegi will resist and his words will wake up the Hope in others, saving them from Mitarai's animations. Thus, Mitarai loses the game 8. Munakata will then try to kill Mitarai and Naegi will try to stop him. Then the 77th class will jump in and save Mitarai from Munakata, and be living proofs that Munakata is plain wrong. A peace will be then made and Naegi will inspire Mitarai to return to his original goal: to make an Anime that will fill the world with Hope Well, that's all just my two cents. Chances are however that Chisa killed somebody else and disguise them to be her (PLS DON'T BE IT. BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS). Then it would end with Munakata killing himself to activate Chisa's NG code and kill her. Gonna be pessimistic about this. |
equanternal272Sep 10, 2016 5:45 AM
Sep 10, 2016 6:43 PM
#82
I really hope they find a way to make it not chisa without pulling that godawful sounding theory of chisa was junko in DR1 and this chisa is actual junko |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Sep 12, 2016 2:14 PM
#83
THAR BE SPOILERS HERE!!! The longer this thing goes on, the more sure I am that it's Chisa. After a certain treacherous bitch forces the one person who is unquestionably on her side, to violate his NG code because gee-whillickers he *might* just turn against her for the lulz, said treacherous bitch gets brutally murdered by the attacker. Everyone else who died by the attacker's hand was just stabbed. Not exactly the most pleasant way to go but its not so bad all things considered. But the treacherous bitch who betrayed her beloved got killed in a horrible way: tied up, slashed up, impaled and to add insult to injury with a fistful of her precious sweets crammed into her mouth. When you consider Chisa's relationship with Munakata, how she once called him her future beloved I think she would take an exceedingly dim view of someone betraying their loved ones like Ruruka Ando did. And that is probably why Ruruka was killed so gruesomely. |
Sep 12, 2016 2:37 PM
#84
Oooh this poll! I voted on Gekkogahara and turned out she was a robot controlled by Monoka XD |
Sep 12, 2016 3:11 PM
#85
E_Ambah said: İ think it might be Chisa too. But there's a obscurity about Chiaki. No doubt it's Chisa. In fact I raise the bet, and guess that the first person she ever killed was Chiaki Nanami. I think it's important that Chisa is the main character of Danganronpa 3 Despair Arc, I think it's unlikely that she would have come out of it unscathed. And given the fact that the real Chiaki Nanami's fate is such a mystery at this point, I think that would be the most despair-inducing outcome. In addition, the fact that she was supposedly killed at the start of the show doesn't mean much, given that that is pretty much what happened to Junko Enoshima at the start of Danganronpa Trigger Happy Havoc. And most importantly, the biggest clue that it's Chisa is the way that Munakata reacted when Chairman Tengan told him. I guess it does beg the question, how the hell would Tengan know in the first place but I'm sure there's an explanation for that. When Naegi was telling that he went to their class (77th), there was a vase of flowers which means that person is dead. It's obvius that it's Chiaki's but if they fell to despair, why would they put flowers in the first place? Also about Chiaki's Al version, I don't think NEO World Program's makers met with Chiaki so~ Nothing is clear but Chiaki might be alive. |
Sep 12, 2016 6:40 PM
#86
Its probably tengan at this point, hes likely dead but hes most suspect to of started all of this |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Sep 13, 2016 9:55 AM
#87
I've been suspicious of Chisa for awhile, but I'm almost completely convinced she's alive and the traitor at this point. Also, the "Chisa is posing as Asahina" theory seems more and more likely to me. It would be funny if all this build-up to Chisa being the traitor turned out to be a huge red herring, though. Maybe Chiaki is the mastermind... it's hard to believe they'd just kill her instead of brainwashing her. |
RalizahSep 13, 2016 9:59 AM
Sep 19, 2016 10:20 PM
#88
Nayrael said: play the animation that then forces them to commit suicide (this is why there are so many monokuma monitors even though Monokuma doesn't talk to anyone to them). congrats on getting this part right! |
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