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Feb 28, 12:53 PM
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LeonhartAugust said:
Shounen fans are a immensely spoiled bunch; a lot of battle shounen have good adaptations with top tier animation and get seasons after seasons but even that isn't enough. You guys wouldn't survive being fans of several non battle shounen anime.

Sure
 Do you even watch those because they have better animation than this lol
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ejleon said:
*delete forum post*

After reading, this post was not worth my time.

It is a person complaint and basically irrelevant.

Most “bad art / animation” complaints are people that have no clue what they are talking about, and have nothing else that they can complain about, so they just attack “art / animation”.

I wish people would stop doing this and stop making these pathetic posts.

It has been perfectly enjoyable as is, you people are just spoiled and unappreciative.

I grew up watching 1980s & 90s cartoons, two decades of cartoons you people would trash and mock, because “bad art / animation”, without realizing that it is the good story and characters that actually matter.

You comparing a 2020s to a 1990s animation
. What kind of technology you think they are using for this adaptation? Lol
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oh no, it's like the Chainsaw Man anime stupid discussion all over again đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł At this point idk if this is just trolling.

Tbh, CSM situation was absolutely stupid. I don't think they could have done a better adaptation than what it was already but for some reason most of the people who have watched it, shat on it for fuck knows why (majority was japanese audience in fact).

They were treating it like some pile of crap, how it was ruined, etc., when it was the complete opposite. Sure, the sales were kinda not that good considering the manga's popularity, but you can't deny that it was a high quality adaptation even if they took a different approach of animating and directing it.

Now with Sakamoto Days, to me, personally, it's in a weird spot of being slightly below good but still above average. With each new episode it gets a bit worse and I'm not sure if it's the way it's animated/directed or I'm just not really feeling the vibe of it. I don't want to criticize it more because these days for some reason, you can't say anything bad about basically any anime or you will be considered as a hater or whatever. You either have to enjoy/appreciate eveything or just don't watch anything at all.

The CSM Situation was because of the tone adaptation sucked
 Do you even understand why they are changing the tone completely from the movie onwards where it doesn’t take itself way too seriously anymore? Do you even understand that CGI using for no reason was and still is bad? They even said “CGI is the future” only to get blown back and stop using it most of the time for JJK


Now Sakamoto days isn’t above average with every episode it is getting worse than One punch man S2 and that’s saying something.
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izanami204 said:
So, to make things clear, i'm not saying give it to mappa or madhouse or bones or science saru, i don't actually care about the studio and i don't want jjk level animation like people that defend the bad animation say.

Why sakamoto days have bad animation? the answer is actually simple, It has a big fandom that will just eat it up and do nothing about it, even if some people pointed that it has bad animation, there is some others that will say things like : not every anime should be MAPPA, yall want jjk level animation and not every anime like this.
let me break to you but even if you have a low budget studio, you can make this great with a GOOD DIRECTOR, sakamoto days direction is basic with no aura nor the hype that the manga had, it's so normal.
I don't know how some people are calling it good but they might have limited imagination about how this should've been adapted, the only good thing about the adaption is the music.
imagine this having a better background design, more aura, fabric animation, a litttle bit of sakuga, and a studio that actually cares about the fandom and maybe hire an animtor from twitter to do a scene, this project is just to get money, and there's people that support this, and the only things we will get is more popular manga getting bad adaptaion because it sells right? right?

Zom100 has great animation and it's it's studio's first work, the point is it had the passion and the love to make something special and a good director, and there's alot of examples like this.

Cour 2 of this anime is airing this summer, if you want to save it and save every future project, just stop this already.

Bro the animation isn’t even that bad, you’ve just been accustomed to super high quality stuff

Bruh you need reading glasses fr
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Tedybeer said:
oh no, it's like the Chainsaw Man anime stupid discussion all over again đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł At this point idk if this is just trolling.

You have got to be bait and trolling atp
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So I left this anime posts for one reason, and that’s because by the final episode I posted I said “I will wait till final episode”, only to come back to a perfectly fine criticised post of how this anime was butchered and disrespected the manga and see ACTUALLY BLIND DEFENDERS attacking it
 Get outta of here already, the majority hate it along with Japanese.
Feb 28, 2:05 PM
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LeonhartAugust said:
Shounen fans are a immensely spoiled bunch; a lot of battle shounen have good adaptations with top tier animation and get seasons after seasons but even that isn't enough. You guys wouldn't survive being fans of several non battle shounen anime.

Sure
 Do you even watch those because they have better animation than this lol
@Confused_100

Sure, it wasn't like that back then (Naruto had a lot of "quality" animation; Claymore, Magi, Soul Eater are incomplete adaptations, two of which have anime original endings; for example, Bleach having endless fillers, etc), but nowadays, battle shounen get good treatment. Bleach now has a high quality sequel, JJK despite MAPPA has great animation, and so does Demon Slayer (both get sequels announced shortly after the season ends); Same goes for Dandadan, Boku no Hero Academia and Fire Force. There are outliers for sure, but that's the standard treatment battle shounen get in the late 2010s and current decade. Also, One Piece has a remake in the making despite the source material still being incomplete.
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LeonhartAugust said:
@Confused_100

Sure, it wasn't like that back then (Naruto had a lot of "quality" animation; Claymore, Magi, Soul Eater are incomplete adaptations, two of which have anime original endings; for example, Bleach having endless fillers, etc), but nowadays, battle shounen get good treatment. Bleach now has a high quality sequel, JJK despite MAPPA has great animation, and so does Demon Slayer (both get sequels announced shortly after the season ends); Same goes for Dandadan, Boku no Hero Academia and Fire Force. There are outliers for sure, but that's the standard treatment battle shounen get in the late 2010s and current decade. Also, One Piece has a remake in the making despite the source material still being incomplete.

So you agree that this adaptation sucks in current day standards then?
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Many thousands of viewers are watching and enjoying this well above average anime. But one or two elitists aren’t satisfied so it has to be scrapped? Just don’t watch it if you don’t like it! Do I have to buy the comics because you had it stopped? Or can I continue watching it in the media of my choice? Glad MAL members have absolutely no influence on the Japanese entertainment industry


I agree 100%, this is a ridiculous complaint

Bruh really have no background that Japanese hate this huh

@Confused_100 Do you always let everyone else decide for you what you should like or dislike? Honestly, I don’t care if I’m the only human on earth that lies a certain anime, if I enjoy, that is all that matters.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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ejleon said:
*delete forum post*

After reading, this post was not worth my time.

It is a person complaint and basically irrelevant.

Most “bad art / animation” complaints are people that have no clue what they are talking about, and have nothing else that they can complain about, so they just attack “art / animation”.

I wish people would stop doing this and stop making these pathetic posts.

It has been perfectly enjoyable as is, you people are just spoiled and unappreciative.

I grew up watching 1980s & 90s cartoons, two decades of cartoons you people would trash and mock, because “bad art / animation”, without realizing that it is the good story and characters that actually matter.

You comparing a 2020s to a 1990s animation
. What kind of technology you think they are using for this adaptation? Lol
@Confused_100 My point flew over your head. I’m saying that animation today is far more advanced than it was, and people are spoiled, so they don’t appreciate it.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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ejleon said:
@Confused_100 My point flew over your head. I’m saying that animation today is far more advanced than it was, and people are spoiled, so they don’t appreciate it.

Yet somehow it looks worse than 2000s animations
 Weird huh
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ejleon said:
@Confused_100 Do you always let everyone else decide for you what you should like or dislike? Honestly, I don’t care if I’m the only human on earth that lies a certain anime, if I enjoy, that is all that matters.

No? But you are being a contrarian on purpose though lol
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Tedybeer said:
oh no, it's like the Chainsaw Man anime stupid discussion all over again đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł At this point idk if this is just trolling.

Tbh, CSM situation was absolutely stupid. I don't think they could have done a better adaptation than what it was already but for some reason most of the people who have watched it, shat on it for fuck knows why (majority was japanese audience in fact).

They were treating it like some pile of crap, how it was ruined, etc., when it was the complete opposite. Sure, the sales were kinda not that good considering the manga's popularity, but you can't deny that it was a high quality adaptation even if they took a different approach of animating and directing it.

Now with Sakamoto Days, to me, personally, it's in a weird spot of being slightly below good but still above average. With each new episode it gets a bit worse and I'm not sure if it's the way it's animated/directed or I'm just not really feeling the vibe of it. I don't want to criticize it more because these days for some reason, you can't say anything bad about basically any anime or you will be considered as a hater or whatever. You either have to enjoy/appreciate eveything or just don't watch anything at all.

The CSM Situation was because of the tone adaptation sucked
 Do you even understand why they are changing the tone completely from the movie onwards where it doesn’t take itself way too seriously anymore? Do you even understand that CGI using for no reason was and still is bad? They even said “CGI is the future” only to get blown back and stop using it most of the time for JJK


Now Sakamoto days isn’t above average with every episode it is getting worse than One punch man S2 and that’s saying something.
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The CSM Situation was because of the tone adaptation sucked


Delusional to keep insisting on this two years later. Just let it go.
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Confused_100 said:
ejleon said:
@Confused_100 My point flew over your head. I’m saying that animation today is far more advanced than it was, and people are spoiled, so they don’t appreciate it.

Yet somehow it looks worse than 2000s animations
 Weird huh

Weird? Perhaps we are not thinking of the same thing then. That would make more sense.
ejleonMar 1, 3:47 AM
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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ejleon said:
@Confused_100 Do you always let everyone else decide for you what you should like or dislike? Honestly, I don’t care if I’m the only human on earth that lies a certain anime, if I enjoy, that is all that matters.

No? But you are being a contrarian on purpose though lol

Actually, you’re the one being contrary to what was said.

Because I was agreeing with someone else above when you responded.

😂
ejleonMar 1, 3:47 AM
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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Maybe people are desperately asking too much for the anime to be like SNK, JJK, or that mediocre anime that is DanDaDan.

Now look, i'm not going to become neither some loser who don't give a damn about the animation nor will i ever become an "Animation Puritan/Expert". But do these people really believe that the animation is the only thing that matters in the anime like it's the most important aspect of the show/movie/OVA/special/whatever? Not every anime will be guaranteed that the animation will be on the same level as whatever popular anime they watch, these days. Money is tight and the Japanese cable networks can also be restricted, when it comes to the budget of the animation.

Plus not every anime that does have "good" animation will turn out to be all that great. The show needs actual good writing, good story, good music and good characters to keep the anime afloat or atleast entertain the fans of the manga/light novels. After all, the writing is "The Heart" of anime, while the animation is "The Appearance/Look" of the animation. And if you don't have a good heart, then not everyone in the world's going to love you, no matter how gorgeous you look.

That's the same case with me when watching DanDaDan for the first time. Yes. It has some of the most beautiful animation ever seen, but that's all the anime had to show. The rest is just plain boring with the most boring and uninteresting storytelling ever told and the characters are just as lovable as a wood plank. Flat, boring, annoying and all round just not interesting to learn, know or care about.
"Today's music ain't got the same soul
I like that old time rock and roll" -Bob Seger in 1978.
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@tanjim_ahsan16 There aren't any kids here. So tell me.
@aurora_yuuki if you're that much curious then just google it😒😒
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CĂłmo lloran por un anime que ni estĂĄ mal hecho
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Right now, the show just seems really flat. The comedy is boring, the story is predictable, and everything comes across as really generic. I'm not even sure what benefit better animation can even bring to this.
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I don’t think there’s any need for it to be canceled or remade at all.

Even if a different animation studio were to produce it, there’s no guarantee that it would be any better than what’s currently airing.

I don’t think the current version is bad either.

you wrote, “ if you want to save it and save every future project, just stop this already.” But saying that about a series that already has a second cour confirmed doesn’t sound like a statement aimed at saving the project.

Rather, it felt like a statement that completely disregards those who are enjoying the show and is actually trying to destroy the project.

If you truly wanted to save or improve it, they would be sending requests to the animation studio, detailing what changes or improvements they’d like to see. If those suggestions could improve quality without increasing costs, the studio would likely welcome them. Animation studios usually have contact sections on their websites where people can send such feedback directly.

At this point, both money and manpower have already been allocated, and the company is moving forward with the second cour. If you really wants to scrap everything and have the work redone, you should try becoming a sponsor for the project.

Also, just because a good director is involved doesn’t automatically mean the final product will be good. And there’s absolutely no way that an anime currently airing would get a remake within a year.

If you can’t stand the quality of the anime but is satisfied with the manga, then there’s no need to keep watching something that doesn’t meet their expectations. It would just build up stress and be a waste of time.
@kihel You don't take into account that knowing that there is an anime that is unsatisfactory for a manga that you like when you can find many good and well animated adaptations (eg jjk, demon slayer, fire force...) still presents a strong feeling of stress and anger. The fact that some people like it does not make the anime good and manga readers are right to expect better treatment, but the fact that they made such a superficial work is really a sign of dissatisfaction and mockery, whoever allowed this should be fired.
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@kihel You don't take into account that knowing that there is an anime that is unsatisfactory for a manga that you like when you can find many good and well animated adaptations (eg jjk, demon slayer, fire force...) still presents a strong feeling of stress and anger. The fact that some people like it does not make the anime good and manga readers are right to expect better treatment, but the fact that they made such a superficial work is really a sign of dissatisfaction and mockery, whoever allowed this should be fired.
@Leon888

I do not need you to tell me the fact that there are unsatisfactory animations for my favorite manga, which causes me strong stress.

I myself am a reader of this manga, but I did not expect better and higher quality animation for the anime being made before it was animated. I was hoping that a normal quality animation would be enough, not high quality, and that people would start reading the manga because of the anime.

Nor have I ever considered what you call “Demon Slayer”, “JJK”, etc. to be excellent animation. Everyone has their own definition of excellent animation, and some people go out of their way to compare it to other works, while others don't.

Also, if one were to say that the animation is so bad that the person who allowed it should be fired, then it would be the author of the manga who allowed it to be animated who would be the first to be fired.

If you are very dissatisfied with the quality of the anime, but really want it to be improved and written better, it would be more meaningful if you had time to write comments here and direct your opinions about the points you want to see improved to the officials, and I think it is the fans of the work who can do that.

Ummm...since neither your words nor what I want to convey can be translated neatly and I don't think I can write a clear sentence, there is no need for a reply.


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kihel said:
If you truly wanted to save or improve it, they would be sending requests to the animation studio, detailing what changes or improvements they’d like to see. If those suggestions could improve quality without increasing costs, the studio would likely welcome them. Animation studios usually have contact sections on their websites where people can send such feedback directly.

At this point, both money and manpower have already been allocated, and the company is moving forward with the second cour. If you really wants to scrap everything and have the work redone, you should try becoming a sponsor for the project.

@kihei Well said, but I wonder how many so-called fans actually consider doing these kinds of thing as they apparently enjoy ranting on social media platforms rather than making an attempt to send constructive criticism to the production committee.
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People these days are satisfied with anything, this shit is subpar and everyone who defends it should watch OPMS2 20 times a week as a punishment. People literally writing shit like "well maybe if we are nicer and we ask them to do better it will become better" LMFAOOO


I will gift you a turd to y'all for Christmas and I bet most of the people who defend this shit will receive it gladly since it was a gift anyways.
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I love it when people get upset that a show isn't a 1-1 duplicate of it's source. Get over yourselves.
The show is doing exactly what it should be, and that's not to be a faithful remake, it's to get people to purchase the manga
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You have to let it go, you have to accept it. No matter how popular and well selling the source is, sometimes, that's just how it is. Sometimes god-knows-who titles will be blessed with spectacular adaptations. (Bocchi, Ranking of Kings, Orb) Or some titles that was expected to be above medicore will have mind blowing productions. (Frieren)

Sure, good sales and popularity increases the chances of quality but it's not guaranteened. Just look at One Punch Man and Promised Neverland. They rocked with popularity but still got god awful sequels.

Just spin the wheel of luck and don't hold your breath too much. Then, maybe, you can get shocked with some pleasant surprises.
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I love it when people get upset that a show isn't a 1-1 duplicate of it's source. Get over yourselves.
The show is doing exactly what it should be, and that's not to be a faithful remake, it's to get people to purchase the manga
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I love it when people get upset that a show isn't a 1-1 duplicate of it's source


If anything, a big part of the problem is that it IS too close to the source. What works in manga won't always work in anime, yet so many sequences are just taken directly from the panels but with just the bare mininum added, which creates a situation where people have no other basis but to compare directly to the manga. That is just really basic storyboarding.
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this is exactly why i dont read manga first and watch its anime adaptation. sometimes its too much of a disappointment.
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I agree 100% with everything you said. An anime exists to alleviate the Manga content, not to be a worse version of it.

Everyone is just way too obsessed with jjk, there are other good animations anime available. And sakamoto days is bad doesn't mean we want jjk level animation.
@Ruthless_Lord funny word choice considering alleviate means to reduce
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Brandon_Bird33 said:
@Ruthless_Lord funny word choice considering alleviate means to reduce

English is not my first language but still, I am not exactly wrong though.

I just checked and alleviate means "To reduce something severe", although I agree that I should have used a better word.

Thank you for pointing out my mistake even though it's a very old message.
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Brandon_Bird33 said:
@Ruthless_Lord funny word choice considering alleviate means to reduce

I just found out, actually the word I wanted to write was "elevate".
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