I think I'm more or less the same as you, except for your attitude on hornet nests... sometimes you just have to kick that nest, shake things up a little
... otherwise you are in danger of falling into stagnant trends.RPGM Peasant's Quest [v3.62] [Tinkerer]
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... otherwise you are in danger of falling into stagnant trends.
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I agree in all with DomWolf. But if you want strudel, you have to shake the apple tree so that the apples fall. And throw away the rotten ones.I think I'm more or less the same as you, except for your attitude on hornet nests... sometimes you just have to kick that nest, shake things up a little
Those who like the game will stay, and those who don't mind sharing a girl with even themselves will go cry somewhere else.
I'm not a fan of any flavor of NTR whether giving or receiving, but I'm okay with it if it can be avoided. I don't do Jenny's storyline after rescuing Thomas...it's a sad situation for them, but not enough for me to do her.
Maghda isn't NTR to me, she's borderline ecstatic when you get rid of Dolf. There are other reasons I don't see her again after getting Edgar's stuff back. Which locks out Harald's fetch quests, but that's a price I'm willing to pay. Mia isn't even NTR-adjacent, it's more like waking up after drunk sex next to a stranger who leaves without telling you their name.
(I'd like a way for Thomas to redeem himself. Doesn't have to be a heroic save-the-day or self-sacrifice. Just something showing he's not a complete sad sack. Doubt it'll happen though.)
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See I play Jenny's arc because I have no issue with reverse NTR... part of my power play is I like stealing women from guys in these guys (hence why I often advocate for rivals in one form or another) & Jenny is so much happier with her baby-daddy boytoy!
I'm not a fan of Maghda (she has grown on me a bit but still on the bottem tier for me), but my completionist nature drives me to do her content.
The Werewolf is basically rape. Mia THOUGHT it was MC only yo find out it was an imposter. Shes a victim of that scenario. Love hunting it down later!
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NTR what's in the game is mostly humorous in my opinion.
A werewolf is just an (un)lucky coincidence.
Shakala is just a "cultural" joke.
Ziva isn't actually MC's girlfriend, just a hookup buddy.
And in the rest of the cases, the MC is the bad guy, he fuck married women.
What bothered me the most was the criticism of MC's clone, who was the suitor here, which character was real and which was a clone? There was simply no point in complaining here.
Actually, it wasn't even rape for mr, she wanted it, the werewolf met her, the MC made a fool of himself and missed the opportunity. It's a big coincidence.
But if it was mi wife it its really rape nad infidelity. I will not let myself be cuckolded
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Actually in the beginning there was a few sharing scenes (some avoidable, most not) but there was major backlash for them all. So it was in recent updates that Tinkerer began siphoning them out as optional.
-Shakala's Wedding Gangbang
-Werewolf + Mia
To name a couple. Even the relatively recent Duplication 3some (where MC fucks Erevi with his own double) got backlash. It's not something who played the early game wouldnt expect. It's also a fallout we have watched time & time again.
And more power to you for enjoying it.See I play Jenny's arc because I have no issue with reverse NTR... part of my power play is I like stealing women from guys in these guys (hence why I often advocate for rivals in one form or another) & Jenny is so much happier with her baby-daddy boytoy!
I don't avoid Maghda because of her looks, it's because when you first see her she's chowing down on roast peddler. Doesn't matter how much she likes you, progressing with her knowing that is...disturbing.
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Let's say it's a dark room. You're wife thinks you're gonna come in. Someone else goes in the room & she fucks them (thinking its you). Then you walk in & turn on the light saying sorry I'm late babes, after the dude left.NTR what's in the game is mostly humorous in my opinion.
Actually, it wasn't even rape for mr, she wanted it, the werewolf met her, the MC made a fool of himself and missed the opportunity. It's a big coincidence.
But if it was mi wife it its really rape nad infidelity. I will not let myself be cuckolded
The Werewolf was the only participant who was in the know. So its I would say its rape. But I'm also not gonna argue/debate it lol.
I do get what you mean tho
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She does say she isnt a fan of human. That was more a Dolf thing lolAnd more power to you for enjoying it.
I don't avoid Maghda because of her looks, it's because when you first see her she's chowing down on roast peddler. Doesn't matter how much she likes you, progressing with her knowing that is...disturbing.
What if the "rotten apples" are those who have been supporting/following this game for a very long time? Have any of you experience the disappointment when seeing your life-long efford ruined half-way or never turn out anywhere close to expected?
Also, there are a few games that were completely trashed/abandoned when it take a 180 midway. Many supporters felt like they were sacrified to please others.
For me, I really don't care much if there are some mild NTR content, or off-the-screen stuff. However, I hate forced-NTR just because the game need some. The kind of content that I have to experience no matter what. I would prefer NTR content that is based on relationship, or the way MC treat his girls.
Also, there are a few games that were completely trashed/abandoned when it take a 180 midway. Many supporters felt like they were sacrified to please others.
For me, I really don't care much if there are some mild NTR content, or off-the-screen stuff. However, I hate forced-NTR just because the game need some. The kind of content that I have to experience no matter what. I would prefer NTR content that is based on relationship, or the way MC treat his girls.
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Im a simple guy. When is girl lustful she is my type. More than that, Im simple anal guy. When girl want some ass fun she is my real love. Beside this i have memory like goldfish, if you didnt remember this, I totally forget about this roast.And more power to you for enjoying it.
I don't avoid Maghda because of her looks, it's because when you first see her she's chowing down on roast peddler. Doesn't matter how much she likes you, progressing with her knowing that is...disturbing.
Yeah Im talking about this, maybe she is infidelity, but its not about her will.
On other side, when you came in room and there is lustful woman, are you close door with sorry. Or you take your advantage. It isnt rape when she want it.
You know, its still only games. Real life is completly different thing. So in games i can make some decisions that I wouldn't actually make in real life. Besides, a game is a work of art and its rendering always depends on the author. I won't start condemning Dostoyevsky just because I don't like "Demons". Likewise, I won't give Butcher another (several) chance just because he did one good short story (he's still a douchebag) I'm also not going to be pissed off at Tinkerer because I don't like one or two things about his story.
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If they are are Patron I understand it may feel like a waste of there money if the project they back takes a shift. But it's not there "life-long effort" its Tinkerer's (or other Devs) effort, it's their project. Many creators have many people, with many kinks & desires that they may want represented. They cant make everyone happy. But people should t throw their toys out the pram just cos a few things are added that they dont like.
Theres a guy who left the fanbase a while back, his issues were the Dupilcate 3some & the BDSM revolving around Erevi. But anyone who has played as long as him knows the Tower is themes around BDSM as a "evil" counterpart to the Temple's free-love/pleasure for all vibe
NTR what's in the game is mostly humorous in my opinion.
A werewolf is just an (un)lucky coincidence.
Shakala is just a "cultural" joke.
Ziva isn't actually MC's girlfriend, just a hookup buddy.
And in the rest of the cases, the MC is the bad guy, he fuck married women.
What bothered me the most was the criticism of MC's clone, who was the suitor here, which character was real and which was a clone? There was simply no point in complaining here.
Actually, it wasn't even rape for mr, she wanted it, the werewolf met her, the MC made a fool of himself and missed the opportunity. It's a big coincidence.
But if it was mi wife it its really rape nad infidelity. I will not let myself be cuckolded
I mean the werewolf thing is a perfect example of what I mean. It's drastically different from most of the other scenes in the game, even when comparing the early game ones and it got a ton of backlash so much so that Tinker added an Alternative Scene that didn't include it. As well as giving you a warning when the werewolf scene is about to happen which wasn't there originally. It's also not really a scene I'd call funny as it's just straight up rape. Also Phineas rape by deception is still rape. Mia doesn't want the werewolf, she wants the mc and thinks that's him. If I pretend to be someone's husband or boyfriend in order to have sex with them it's still rape. Not gonna lie you arguing it's not rape because she's horny is kind of gross.
The Shakala wedding thing is and was pretty different, you let the other goblins sleep with Shakala. You can put your foot down and say no. It's really more of an optional sharing scene and most players are just going to ignore it.
Im not really sure why the Erevi thing got backlash, but the whole werewolf thing is completely different from the other "ntr" scenes in the game and having a love interest stolen away is also pretty different. Plus even if we're counting that and the sharing scenes as an ntr scene that's only like 4 or 5 ntr scenes in the whole game and they're literally all optional
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Minors changes would be fine for me. Drastic changes, or unexpected changes are not. I wouldn't be mad at Tinkerer, just disappointed.
5-7 years is pretty long time for supporting a game.
Expected changes aren't the problem. For example, if Tinkerer has hinted that some NTR stuffs would be expected, then it would be fine.
Like I said, I don't really mind NTR/sharing contents, just as long as it's expected, and not being forced into the game just because the game needs some NTR/sharing content.
I still think the the extreme like the guy who rage quit after the RoD content is pretty rare. Most people would be rather open for more kind of kinks (but may be not extreme like unavoidable NTR/sharing for every LIs).
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I would definitely see it differently in real life. Here it feels like a gag from 80's comedies. It's just that you can't strictly say that it was against her will.
I'm not into NTR, but the wedding nose with Shakala strikes me as one of the funniest scenes in the game. Especially the conversation about the "little hole" BTW why MC can fuck Shakala to her little hole?
At all events where another man was included in the sex, some people here shouted about perversions and NTR But what happened after the clone scene can only be described as madness. And I still don't understand why. BTW, the same scene was in Treasure of Nadia a while before that and it did pretty much the same thing.
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I'm gonna go on a tangent because 1) I'm bored so I have been brainstorming & 2) this can go on forever like so many other debates lol.
When Tinkerer brought up the idea off new pets for the dungeon he mention a Piggy & Catgirl (AFAIK not set in stone but just ideas). The part that cought my attention is the idea they could be Dr. Moreau style creations born of a mad Alchemist's chimaeric experiments. I think if Tinkerer is gonna add such a thing then he should go ALL OUT. Have Harold hire MC to join an expedition to the small island this man made his home on & raid it for exotic slaves/pets!
This can be fun for 2 reasons 1) Tinkerer can create a number of hybrid monsters based on real animals, but as puns on there name (EX: Spide-Monkeys, Tiger-Sharks, Mole-Rats, Bull-Frogs) which MC can capture & sell to Harold, and 2) It allows MC to explore a weird area full of creatures native to it without breaking the established feel of the Weirdwood region (I personally get a gothic-jungle vibe when I imagine it).
I am currently working on a fan based concept for this idea. If anyone is interested in reading whatever I come up with let me know. I'll pop it on here like I have before
When Tinkerer brought up the idea off new pets for the dungeon he mention a Piggy & Catgirl (AFAIK not set in stone but just ideas). The part that cought my attention is the idea they could be Dr. Moreau style creations born of a mad Alchemist's chimaeric experiments. I think if Tinkerer is gonna add such a thing then he should go ALL OUT. Have Harold hire MC to join an expedition to the small island this man made his home on & raid it for exotic slaves/pets!
This can be fun for 2 reasons 1) Tinkerer can create a number of hybrid monsters based on real animals, but as puns on there name (EX: Spide-Monkeys, Tiger-Sharks, Mole-Rats, Bull-Frogs) which MC can capture & sell to Harold, and 2) It allows MC to explore a weird area full of creatures native to it without breaking the established feel of the Weirdwood region (I personally get a gothic-jungle vibe when I imagine it).
I am currently working on a fan based concept for this idea. If anyone is interested in reading whatever I come up with let me know. I'll pop it on here like I have before
The Dr. Moreau vibe is absolutely there. On the discord he mentioned them being tied to a mad wizard (I'd have to find the exact wording), and that they'd be animals rather than "people."
Yes, please.I am currently working on a fan based concept for this idea. If anyone is interested in reading whatever I come up with let me know. I'll pop it on here like I have before
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This is a very ROUGH draft of an idea.
Disclamer: This NOT cannon or confirmed. This is a fan based concept created based on an idea mentioned by Tinkerer. I'm sure it goes without saying this message isnt directed at you Damagus01.
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Obviously if Tinkerer does wanna do this kind of idea he can go as far & crazy with the creatures as he wants. But I just feel this could be such a fun area/quest chain. Far more fun & engaging than, here are 2 pets at Harold's shop buy them...
Also after completing the island I would love if MC can buy a SpiderMonkey pet! Tinkerer did mention mabey adding new pets to the game...
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Does dev tinkerer released the link for 3.51 version on patreon? Because someone said that he will release link today 30th Aug Friday 51 test version. And after 3 days public version will be out. Any updates regarding that.