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Oct 14, 2018 11:25 AM

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GS just throws a bunch of totally disposable party memebers at us and then expects us to be invested despite completely forgetting to give us a reason to care about them.
why would you say the show EXPECTS us to feel sorry without reason? Do you really need a backstory for characters to feel sorry for them? I saw many people who rightfully blame adventurers for going on a high lvl quest unprepared and overconfident, but i still felt sorry for mage who died in pain, and fighter who got raped and scarred for life; i felt least sorry for the dude since he's the leader and his overconfidence played major role in the team's demise. MC priest got lucky..
And speaking of pandering, what was that gratuitous violence and rape about?
violent evil creatures acted violently, why look for other explanations. In some world goblins might have resorted to imprisoning or even negotiating with humans,
here they rape and kill. A band of overconfident people got massacred by numerous foes, nothing extraordinary here either. Unless you ask why so much violence? Well that's what anime like GS and berserk are all about. You don't have to love it.
Because we have no reason to care about the characters, it served no narrative purpose other than being misery porn for people who like that.
rape and murder clearly shows how goblins are misunderstood as weak foes, how merciless and savage they are; it helps the audience understand this. It shows how overconfidence can lead to death. It shows how your typical adventurers who are usually op in games, here can die easily. Of course there are people who watch the show for misery and porn alone, this can be said about crazy popular shows like game of thrones, but to say that rape serves no purpose is just wrong. It kind of makes the show unlike others and defines what kind of world are we dealing with.
Oct 14, 2018 11:29 AM

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Username23489023 said:
The shamans are imams, the hobs are sleeper cells that "got away," and train other goblins to fight. The similarities are endless.
jesus christ i beg you, tell me your joking...
Oct 14, 2018 11:53 AM

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NthDegree said:
I've replied to this so many times I'm just going to quote myself.
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This again? *sigh*

Compelling fantasy world? You mean that generic not-game-but-totally-is setting with "adventurers" and a ton of RPG tropes that almost every fantasy world uses nowadays? And tension in fights? Pfft. GS just throws a bunch of totally disposable party memebers at us and then expects us to be invested despite completely forgetting to give us a reason to care about them. And speaking of pandering, what was that gratuitous violence and rape about? Because we have no reason to care about the characters, it served no narrative purpose other than being misery porn for people who like that.


This was the most accurate description of GS I've seen so far. A genuine thank you from me.
Oct 14, 2018 12:26 PM

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Shit:
- game setting but not actually
- basic ass moe girl with bland design
- goblins kidnap and rape to reproduce, straight out from hentai, prob actually there for doujinshis, won't take long for some fujoshi to draw GS in that situation
- bad CGI
- ost
- animation fails at defining atmosphere
- failed shock value
- censored too much, unintentionally funny parts

Good shit:
- GS design, never take your helmet of my dude
- we get to see different kills, I appreciate use of many weapons
- focus (so far) on slaughtering
Oct 14, 2018 12:51 PM

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I LOVE Goblin Slayer! But if there is one thing I have to say that is bad, are the manga readers. It's so sad, refusing the read the source material. Is reading so hard? I fucking hate manga readers of Goblin Slayer, going into anime threads and saying what the anime left out. Fuck you, the anime is not adapting the manga, it is adapting the LN. The manga is inferior in every way to the LN, but people instead of comparing the anime to the LN, are comparing it to the manga.
Oct 14, 2018 12:54 PM

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I just like it for what it is. Mindless action with one of the most badass fantasy armor guy designs to date. It does have plenty of faults though, such as narratively boxing itself into a repetitive story in a world filled with near limitless possibilities. I know WHY it does it, but that doesn't make it any less frustrating.

Also the fact that everyone except for GS is pretty one dimensional.
Oct 14, 2018 12:59 PM
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Like: seems to have a decent story ar least. Main character seems like a badass.

Dislike: not much as of now.

However, I will say that just being violent and "dark" won't make me believe that this series is mature and if it turns out that the series isn't mature then I can kind of understand why people would shit on it for being violent without a point.
Oct 14, 2018 1:45 PM

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I find it hilarious that people are using the argument of if you think Berserk is good you have to think this is good because the deaths and rapes had an effect on the story and there were consequences paid in Berserk. They weren't being used for cheap shock value in order to fulfill a 13 year old's idea of grimdark.

The events in the first episode are akin to John, Jane and Jennifer are all office workers dreaming about one day owning a house and having beautiful kids who will attend university and be successful. However they all get killed in a car crash. And the show somehow expects people to get sad and feel anything over something as superficially explored such as this? It wants the fans to think oh my these characters have 3 minutes of backstory so they aren't redshirts for shock value but no. There's no effort put into developing these characters nor do what happened to them have any impact on the story or characters.

Ask yourself this question. If the first episode did not happen, would the characters behave significantly differently? Absolutely not. Goblin Slayer has already made up his mind about wiping out the goblins due to his past. The priestess? Nope. You can just set her backstory as a girl who wants to use her miracles to help save people and advance up the ranks of adventurers and the story will turn out exactly the same. The events did not have an impact on our characters. That's why they are just for shock value to draw in certain demographics.

The show tries to mask the fact that it's a harem isekai like show by using really cheap and lazy conflicts and themes. It tries to play the is it moral to massacre goblins card yet doesn't actually want to delve deeper into the entire issue other than us good, other races goblin rapists bad. The show did a lot to portray the goblins as a plague upon the world and have no redeeming values, so what argument is there to be had? Why are people and the show thinking that trying to pose this really really bad argument is somehow mature and deep?

The whole thing reminds me of the guy in SAO who dies by refusing to drink the potion Kirito gives him. Who gives a shit and am I supposed to feel moved by it? It's extremely juvenile.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
Oct 14, 2018 1:58 PM

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Look i like this series and i will point as to why and if u people disagree fine but i will not reply

- I like the fantasy setting in general, however most fantasy anime these day follow the trend of using game mechanics and are also an isekai in general. This one follows more of the old traditional fantasy setting, no levels, no stats no teleported to another world just old fantasy style and i find that a bit of fresh air when compared to other recent titles.

- I like the MC in general, he is not overpowered or has any special skills, he works and trains hard, he actually takes his time to train and learn new things and think on the go and that is also another bit of fresh air when compared to most modern protagonist who are quick to being op and no sense of danger or threat is present.

- I will admit the heavy action as well as the blood and gore kind of satisfies my inner appetite for horror and madness however this series is not that to much of an extreme of the type. Especially if u have read far ahead both the LN and Manga are two different adaptions to compare but if u follow either of them as whole you will realise the blood and gore and other violance is not much of common thing as you might initially think.

- The story is a bit more simplistic to follow and is pretty straight forward as to where it wants to go. While i do love a story if it is heavily complex and done right, a lot of times most anime adaptions don't follow trough in portraying the story in animated format as compared to the original source but this story is not as complex from the beggining so you can enjoy watching it without have to heavily focus on what is going on around it.

- Well these are just some ideas as to why i like it, keep in mind this whole thing is based on what i read of the story in general and not the anime adaption only. So the Anime version might not be as equally praised but so far it seems to be doing fine but we shall see.

If anyone disagrees fine but try to come up with some good counterarguments for why you either hate or love it. I have seen both sides of coin saying things without thinking it trough and it just only fuels the saber rattling.
Oct 14, 2018 2:50 PM

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The low quality adaptation makes me want to read the manga or LN to see if it's better
Oct 14, 2018 3:06 PM
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This anime is fucking intense
Oct 14, 2018 3:11 PM

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shit quality of animation and everything else (except maybe voice acting), removing substance and character backstories in order to be able to fit as much gore and shock factor to make the show appeal as much as possible to E-word teens, both the CG and the non-CG look like cheap garbage and this has virtually no love put into it whatsoever.

Nobody should be subjected to this drivel. These shitty studios that are making these trashy seasonal shows to make a quick buck should close-up shop and let actual passionate, talented people make anime.
#MakeAnimeArtAgain
Oct 14, 2018 4:01 PM

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@Username23489023:- Please take your evidenceless controversial assumption out of this thread as it may ignite more toxicity.

Delirium231 said:
I don't even get why many people even have high expectations of this show and complain later on when the plot doesn't meet their high expectations. The title alone already summarizes what the story is going to be about. You can get an idea of what this show is about by reading the title alone.

Yes the story looks and feels like it was written by a horny 14 year old pubescent male teenager. It is simple and repetitive, killing goblins over and over each episode, rinse and repeat is boring if you are not even to that stuff. But you can enjoy this for what it is, just a simple story that can easily understood and enjoyed.

Please reread the title of this thread and "tell us what you like and dislike about Goblin Slayer".

Tobestik said:
I LOVE Goblin Slayer! But if there is one thing I have to say that is bad, are the manga readers. It's so sad, refusing the read the source material. Is reading so hard? I fucking hate manga readers of Goblin Slayer, going into anime threads and saying what the anime left out. Fuck you, the anime is not adapting the manga, it is adapting the LN. The manga is inferior in every way to the LN, but people instead of comparing the anime to the LN, are comparing it to the manga.

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AzorAhai said:
GS just throws a bunch of totally disposable party memebers at us and then expects us to be invested despite completely forgetting to give us a reason to care about them.
why would you say the show EXPECTS us to feel sorry without reason? Do you really need a backstory for characters to feel sorry for them? I saw many people who rightfully blame adventurers for going on a high lvl quest unprepared and overconfident, but i still felt sorry for mage who died in pain, and fighter who got raped and scarred for life; i felt least sorry for the dude since he's the leader and his overconfidence played major role in the team's demise. MC priest got lucky..
And speaking of pandering, what was that gratuitous violence and rape about?
violent evil creatures acted violently, why look for other explanations. In some world goblins might have resorted to imprisoning or even negotiating with humans,
here they rape and kill. A band of overconfident people got massacred by numerous foes, nothing extraordinary here either. Unless you ask why so much violence? Well that's what anime like GS and berserk are all about. You don't have to love it.
Because we have no reason to care about the characters, it served no narrative purpose other than being misery porn for people who like that.
rape and murder clearly shows how goblins are misunderstood as weak foes, how merciless and savage they are; it helps the audience understand this. It shows how overconfidence can lead to death. It shows how your typical adventurers who are usually op in games, here can die easily. Of course there are people who watch the show for misery and porn alone, this can be said about crazy popular shows like game of thrones, but to say that rape serves no purpose is just wrong. It kind of makes the show unlike others and defines what kind of world are we dealing with.

Please reread the title of this thread and "tell us what you like and dislike about Goblin Slayer".

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Oct 14, 2018 4:06 PM

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@Rythme I just wanted to pop in to express how much I appreciate your efforts of keeping the thread toxicity-free. I don't want it to suffer the fate of the previous GS threads... *shudder*
Oct 14, 2018 4:14 PM

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BloodRequiem said:
I find it hilarious that people are using the argument of if you think Berserk is good you have to think this is good because the deaths and rapes had an effect on the story and there were consequences paid in Berserk. They weren't being used for cheap shock value in order to fulfill a 13 year old's idea of grimdark.

The events in the first episode are akin to John, Jane and Jennifer are all office workers dreaming about one day owning a house and having beautiful kids who will attend university and be successful. However they all get killed in a car crash. And the show somehow expects people to get sad and feel anything over something as superficially explored such as this? It wants the fans to think oh my these characters have 3 minutes of backstory so they aren't redshirts for shock value but no. There's no effort put into developing these characters nor do what happened to them have any impact on the story or characters.

Ask yourself this question. If the first episode did not happen, would the characters behave significantly differently? Absolutely not. Goblin Slayer has already made up his mind about wiping out the goblins due to his past. The priestess? Nope. You can just set her backstory as a girl who wants to use her miracles to help save people and advance up the ranks of adventurers and the story will turn out exactly the same. The events did not have an impact on our characters. That's why they are just for shock value to draw in certain demographics.

The show tries to mask the fact that it's a harem isekai like show by using really cheap and lazy conflicts and themes. It tries to play the is it moral to massacre goblins card yet doesn't actually want to delve deeper into the entire issue other than us good, other races goblin rapists bad. The show did a lot to portray the goblins as a plague upon the world and have no redeeming values, so what argument is there to be had? Why are people and the show thinking that trying to pose this really really bad argument is somehow mature and deep?

The whole thing reminds me of the guy in SAO who dies by refusing to drink the potion Kirito gives him. Who gives a shit and am I supposed to feel moved by it? It's extremely juvenile.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you.
Oct 14, 2018 4:15 PM

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ShadowMonkey said:
shit quality of animation and everything else (except maybe voice acting), removing substance and character backstories in order to be able to fit as much gore and shock factor to make the show appeal as much as possible to E-word teens, both the CG and the non-CG look like cheap garbage and this has virtually no love put into it whatsoever.

Nobody should be subjected to this drivel. These shitty studios that are making these trashy seasonal shows to make a quick buck should close-up shop and let actual passionate, talented people make anime.
#MakeAnimeArtAgain

I agree with everything you've said, apart from the voice acting not being shitty too.
Oct 14, 2018 4:19 PM

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epidemia78 said:
Purple_Gh0st24 said:

I am a little confused why you'd bring up Harry Potter, but to answer your question: no. Harry Potter is darker than Goblin Slayer, and something like Berserk is darker still.


Harry Potter is darker than Goblin Slayer? what a strange thing to say.

Gratuitous violence and vulgarity doesn't automatically make something "dark." I'm not even a fan of Harry Potter, but it's easy to see that it's darker than Goblin Slayer.
Oct 14, 2018 4:29 PM

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Akhundelar said:
I like the Goblin Slayers character. He is smart, efficient, relentless.

More like the rest of the world lacks common sense.
Wow look at Goblin Slayer's super genius idea of wearing a helmet.
Wow let's not enter a cave full of monsters when you can just set a fire in the entrance and smoke them out. Creative and intelligent.

I like this anime exactly because stupidity gets punished in the form of all these newbies getting raped.
Goblins in this setting can be replaced entirely by human bandits which also pillage, plunder, kidnap, and rape. Practically nothing will change. Goblins genocide is just easier to justify since they aren't human.
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I like that the MCs goal is too commit genocide and we as an audience member agree with him.
Oct 14, 2018 5:20 PM

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I like Goblin Slayer. I don't care about anything else.
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Idk, I feel strange about Goblin Slayer. The story kills half of the characters we were introduced to like 5 minutes before their deaths, which is usually a sign of horrible pacing. Still, the scenes were so graphic to the point that I was lowkey horrified when I reached the rape scene.



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I've been reading Goblin Slayer Manga for months now, and it is the only manga to have ever make me buy the Light Novels. I love the entire story of GS and it's good at telling a simple story in a dark fantasy setting. I like anime, but I'm not too into that slice of life, cutesy, comedic BS that's not even funny. Don't get me wrong, I will watch some of it, but when season after season I see shows that do the same exact thing, like any slice of life show, it gets boring and I don't really give a shit. Made in Abyss was a breath of fresh air, daring to go into unmarked territory. Goblin Slayer, while not a new concept, goes into a more serious tone.

Everytime new animes are released each season, I always look for one that I can take seriously. I love games and shows that doesn't hold my hand, something that only mature teens or adults should see, because they can handle it, and are intelligent enough to distinguish fantasy from fiction, regardless of what themes are presented. Many people are shitting on GS and I think it's BS that they are. I've been waiting months for the anime to come out because I loved the GS manga so much, but now people are getting triggered because of one rape scene, as if there was never any rape in any other forms of media, yet all of a sudden people complain about GS. It's a damn shame.

So many people dislike Goblin Slayer. Why is that? The many videos, reviews and posts that I've read make a lot of misguided assumptions of what the show truly is. As much as I want to call people idiots to those who dislike Goblin Slayer for in my opinion THE DUMBEST REASONS, I want to put my insight into it based off of reactions to episode 1.

1) People say the show is edgy, or atleast the character.
- I don't know why people are saying this show is edgy. It's not. The dark themes in this show is there for a reason. It has a narrative purpose. The serious and stoic characterization that Goblin Slayer has shown give insight to who he is as a character. He's smart, conservative, waste's no time, uses as little energy as possible, and is efficient. The whole reason for his character is to show that he is not a hero (which he states in the manga and LN) and has one purpose in life, to kill goblins. Well what about the dark colors and shadows?, the killing, the blood? They're inside a freakin cave guys common... The title alone GOBLIN SLAYER should tell you that this show would have to deal with violence and murder. Goblins also like hide in secret areas like caves and ruins. The majority of the time you will see them in a dark setting. Just because there's dark colors doesn't mean it's edgy. If that were the case, I could name every light hearted anime that has a dark colors in it edgy, whether they show a dark room, or it's night time.

2. Characters are generic stereotypes of DnD
- People say that like it's a bad thing. Every character are exactly that, stereotypes. The creator of Goblin Slayer even gave every character generic names that fit their type of character (Priestess, Spearman, Heavy Swordsman, etc). It has never bothered me that these characters are fitted after a model, because it's not about them, it's about the Goblins and how they react to them, and the experiences they share as a collective group.

3. It's not a dark fantasy
- It has fantasy characters and creatures with dark tones and themes to it. I don't see how that's hard to grasp.

4. No character development for the group that went inside the cave and bad pacing
- The first episode is meant to show off the themes of the show, to create that setting and to get an idea of what the show will be about. I never cared for the group that gets killed, because it's obvious that they will get killed. The manga does show their background, but even then, I never cared. These characters were never meant to have a story. They died very quickly which people call bad pacing. When in fact, it's great pacing. Their deaths is meant as a way to convey to the viewer the threat the goblins have in this fantasy setting. The show doesn't waste too much time in developing these characters since they were meant to die in the first place. Their rookie mistakes show the audience that goblins could take advantage of anyone who makes mistakes and should not be taken lightly, period. For the rest of the main cast, throughout the manga and LN, little by little, they develop each character through each of their dialogue and interactions that have with each other. They don't need to tell me their goddamn life's story right off the bat. Let the viewer piece together bits and pieces of information and decide for themselves whether or not a character has good development.

5. The story is simple or has no depth.
- It's ignorant to say that from just the first episode. Though I will admit, the story is simple. And it's meant to be that way. My problem is with shows that try to tell it is complex when in reality it's not. Goblin Slayer is not trying to show that it's complex. Time and time again, the manga and LN tells it's readers that the MC is not some kind of hero or in it for some kind of extraordinary gain. He does it because he hates goblins. Why is simplicity such a bad thing? Is it a sin to enjoy a simple story that shows off wits, interactions, combat and revenge? Simple scenes where we see the MC interact with other characters are what I find extremely enjoyable, as well as when he goes hunting goblins. I find the writing very clever in what it does and the story to be fantastic. It gets to the point. Goblin Slayer himself may seem simple in having one goal: to kill goblins, but his actions in dealing with them are anything but simple. Later on the story does build upon itself as it introduces more characters and problems. Take Sword Maiden as an example, she is probably the most complex character in story as she has to deal with the guilt of being assaulted by goblins and living in fear of them. She relies on the MC for comfort. If you read the manga or LN you will know what I mean.

6. The rape scene
- Now I understand that some people would dislike show because of the rape scene. I would have to assume that they have either been raped themselves, know someone who has been raped, or just altogether do not like the idea, or act of rape. That I can understand. However, people need to understand that the rape scene is there to act as a way to show the audience the vile ways of the goblins and why they commit such acts. They do it for procreation as there are no female goblins, and they do it for pleasure. Rape is just another reason to hate goblins, and Goblin Slayer is killing them off. I also do not understand how people are okay with murder, victimizing, gore, racism, sexism in a show, but all of a sudden they lose their minds when it comes to rape. I see rape as people as bad or almost as bad as murder. I treat rape as another bad act as any other act and a tool to tell a narrative. Why is rape the part where people can't handle seeing? I'd like to imagine that people are to soft for it, and are just too immature to handle such themes. People also say that the rape scene is not good rape. Like wtf? Rape is just rape. Saying that is evidence for a lack of intelligence. That rape scene was just meant to show off what the goblins can do to women in this world, and trust me, there's a lot of it in the manga.

Overall I love Goblin Slayer. It's top 3 in my list of favorite anime/manga. I've been reading it for a long time now, and I find it shameful that people dislike it over rape. Honestly people are just too much of a snowflake to even handle the show. It really doesn't matter what the show does, since one thing can ruin their whole experience. If you don't like it, don't watch it and watch your little girls anime in your safe place where everyone are friends and singing together holding hands cracking corny ass jokes and let the mature adults and teenagers who can distinguish reality from fiction enjoy their actual quality shows.
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GS is a capable man, dedicated
sometimes he get injured,sometimes he failed, but he learns, grow stronger & smarter.
he fights so that no one suffer the same fate as him, but he's not a naive
as long as he live, his struggles live on

long live Goblin Slayer
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Let's keep our head cool, okay guys? So, what I like and dislike about it ignoring all the blatant description of rape and beastiality:

Likes:

The Goblin Slayer is just an awesome dude: the way he talks and acts, he is as professional as he is obsessed with his job. I also like the fact he is nowhere God-level, as in he doesn't just jump in head-on and kill dozens of Goblins in a single stroke. He relies on tactics and help from his ally.

It's nice to see we get to know more about the titular character from the perspectives of those around him, rather than him going into details about his background and motivation.

Good music and opening song.

Somewhat fluid animation. There's a lot of actions going on instead of super-fast movements (like in Fate) or still frames (like in Akame Ga Kill). It's refreshing that way seeing individual enemies brought down.

It's pretty dark. I know Overlord can be dark at times, but this is to another level.

References to Warhammer Fantasy, including the dice rolling in the opening song and the fact there are two moons, one red and the other green. If Goblin Slayer were in Age of Sigmar, he would make a fine Stormcast Eternal.

Characters are older than what you would see in most game-setting anime, or adventure fantasy anime in general.

Dislikes:

Overuse of CGI. I hope this would go away.

Voice acting is a bit meh. I don't like the voice of Cow Girl that much.

Ending song and sequence is shit.
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Honestly people out here bitching about the rape scene and shit like that, meanwhile I'm over here throwing up every time the lazy bastards at white fox use that awful CG model for Goblin slayer. Other then that I'm still kinda neutral on this one, like we're gonna need more than just Goblin slayer steamrolling his way through goblin hordes for me to get more invested.
Oct 14, 2018 7:25 PM

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Pros: I think the pacing is pretty good and the Goblin Slayer character could potentially be interesting.

Cons: I wonder why he does not take off the armor when he eats soup.
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Kazataro said:
i like the rape scenes it fulfils a fantasy of mine

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To me it feels like the author got really worked up over his DnD character, so he decided to make a story around it. Obviously thats not how it went, but the way the universe and mc are presented just feels so awfully out of an rpg.

Also the first episode gives off an impression that its gonna rely on shock value to keep the viewer interested, but only time will tell.
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OneManMob said:
To me it feels like the author got really worked up over his DnD character, so he decided to make a story around it. Obviously thats not how it went, but the way the universe and mc are presented just feels so awfully out of an rpg.

Also the first episode gives off an impression that its gonna rely on shock value to keep the viewer interested, but only time will tell.


Buddy both the anime and manga depict the whole thing as a DnD session. Thats why its so ridiculous when these NPCs are crying about rape when they watch GoT or other garbage. None of it is real even in the fantasy world, thats what the opening and ending suggest to me, and the stylization of the manga.

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Like:

- Goblin Slayer himself

- Traditional D&D-like setting and characters

- Unfiltered dangers and consequences

- The vast world to adventure and detailed dungeons they explore

- Unique and creative ways they go about fighting monsters


- Simple, yet engaging plot

- Elf's butt

- The main characters don't feel invincible


Dislike:

- The part of the fanbase that only like it because of that time a girl was raped
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Mywifesson said:
OneManMob said:
To me it feels like the author got really worked up over his DnD character, so he decided to make a story around it. Obviously thats not how it went, but the way the universe and mc are presented just feels so awfully out of an rpg.

Also the first episode gives off an impression that its gonna rely on shock value to keep the viewer interested, but only time will tell.


Buddy both the anime and manga depict the whole thing as a DnD session. Thats why its so ridiculous when these NPCs are crying about rape when they watch GoT or other garbage. None of it is real even in the fantasy world, thats what the opening and ending suggest to me, and the stylization of the manga.



yeah, its just that anyone who I talk to and mention "its basically an rpg world", they say "no its an actual fantasy world", which is just bologne
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Evildoer said:
- Unique and creative ways they go about fighting monsters


Boy are you going to enjoy Log Horizon when you get to it. From barrier spells being used as stepping stones to bind spells (that deal 1000 damage when broken) being used as a whip, turning a purely support class player into one of the most powerful DPS dealer in the server, to even greater implications of the MMORPG rules mated with reality. Creativity is the bread and butter of that saga.
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Eanki said:
Evildoer said:
- Unique and creative ways they go about fighting monsters


Boy are you going to enjoy Log Horizon when you get to it. From barrier spells being used as stepping stones to bind spells (that deal 1000 damage when broken) being used as a whip, turning a purely support class player into one of the most powerful DPS dealer in the server, to even greater implications of the MMORPG rules mated with reality. Creativity is the bread and butter of that saga.
Hmm, I initially wrote it off as another .hack clone for the most part, but that does pique my interest a bit and help me see it in a different light. I did always think it looked like one of the cooler series set in an mmo.

I miss .hack...
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Well the MC isn't a complete wuss... so that helps a lot.

A familiar, but compelling fantasy setting that is willing to show off its brutality and harshness. Bucking of expectations, introducing characters, but then killing them off and also MC wiling to kill children.

Animation isn't too bad, aside from some janky cg here than there.

Honestly its a pretty good time so far. I don't really understand this narrative of anything that victimizes women = bad... men are routinely victimized in all kinds of mediums, but no one seems to give a shit.

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it's a good anime, but not the best of the year or season

ppl were complaining that they used rape scenes as fanservice, but i didnt see it
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Evildoer said:
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Boy are you going to enjoy Log Horizon when you get to it. From barrier spells being used as stepping stones to bind spells (that deal 1000 damage when broken) being used as a whip, turning a purely support class player into one of the most powerful DPS dealer in the server, to even greater implications of the MMORPG rules mated with reality. Creativity is the bread and butter of that saga.
Hmm, I initially wrote it off as another .hack clone for the most part, but that does pique my interest a bit and help me see it in a different light. I did always think it looked like one of the cooler series set in an mmo.

I miss .hack...


As a contrasting opinion to Log Horizon, I watched it awhile back and wound up being disappointed with it by the end. It's not bad per se, but I dropped it after the first season. The show gets talked up a lot for having a smart MC, but most things seemed to resolve with "I/my team are just super powerful and we've already accounted for all your countermeasures because I'm super smart." I'd compare Log Horizon's MC to a not-evil Ainz Ooal Gown from Overlord, but he's not as stupidly powerful so he has to negotiate sometimes. Ainz is great, but I don't watch Overlord for the strategery on display. Maybe I'll attempt to rewatch LH and see if my opinion has changed, but meh.

Related to GS, one of the reasons that I like GS so much is that it really feels like that the MC has worked for his expertise. He has spent years and years and years honing his art, and he never goes for anything flashy choosing instead to focus solely on efficacy. There's never (at least from what I've read of the manga) a showy "AHA! You've revealed my trap card!" moment that seems to be the trademark of 'smart' MCs in other shows (Log Horizon included). Goblin Slayer espouses brutal efficiency, he does his job well and he does it quietly and without fanfare. The author does a good job of making Goblin Slayer feel like a real person (mostly; his single-minded obsession is a bit hyperbolic, but that too is a part of this character's charm) who is fighting a brutal life-or-death battle of genocide. Said another way, he feels to me like an honest portrayal of humanity on the brink, readily adopting cruel efficiency in the art of eradication.

I can't say that the rest of Goblin Slayer retains the same feel of authenticity. I can provide in-world explanations for a lot of the common critiques I've seen; but there are plenty of anime tropes thrown around that are a bit silly, most of the other characters are (so far) one-dimensional, and I can't for the life of me give a good explanation for why nobody else wears a helmet. Still, the world of Goblin Slayer has its charm (generic setting is NOT inherently a bad thing if it's handled well) and I and everybody I've recommended the show to have been hooked and look forward to more.

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Good:

*Main character.

*Gore.

*Action.

Bad:

*Lack of a major conflict.
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To people who criticize the world as generic RPG setting, because it is generic DnD setting
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I really enjoy it. Others beg to differ. That's the way world works.
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Goblin Slayer reminds me a bit of myself in my early days.



I don't like goblins. They are coarse and rough and irritating and they get into everywhere.
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As a contrasting opinion to Log Horizon, I watched it awhile back and wound up being disappointed with it by the end. It's not bad per se, but I dropped it after the first season. The show gets talked up a lot for having a smart MC, but most things seemed to resolve with "I/my team are just super powerful and we've already accounted for all your countermeasures because I'm super smart." I'd compare Log Horizon's MC to a not-evil Ainz Ooal Gown from Overlord, but he's not as stupidly powerful so he has to negotiate sometimes. Ainz is great, but I don't watch Overlord for the strategery on display. Maybe I'll attempt to rewatch LH and see if my opinion has changed, but meh.

Related to GS, one of the reasons that I like GS so much is that it really feels like that the MC has worked for his expertise. He has spent years and years and years honing his art, and he never goes for anything flashy choosing instead to focus solely on efficacy. There's never (at least from what I've read of the manga) a showy "AHA! You've revealed my trap card!" moment that seems to be the trademark of 'smart' MCs in other shows (Log Horizon included). Goblin Slayer espouses brutal efficiency, he does his job well and he does it quietly and without fanfare. The author does a good job of making Goblin Slayer feel like a real person (mostly; his single-minded obsession is a bit hyperbolic, but that too is a part of this character's charm) who is fighting a brutal life-or-death battle of genocide. Said another way, he feels to me like an honest portrayal of humanity on the brink, readily adopting cruel efficiency in the art of eradication.


Au contraire. The only part where that "I'm smart so I'll prevail" plays is with his fight with Brigandia. That's all really. He's so far from powerful. His guild is far far outmatched by the likes of Krusty's and Isaac's. The only reason he prevailed over them in Episodes 9-10 is not by force at all but by considering the fact that he has discovered a way to give food flavor and then exploring the further implications of that.

The unveiling of Shiroe's Overskill isn't without basis too. When you trace back his logic to the Psyche-Anima Theory and before that, to the fact that he managed to introduce food with flavor in a world that wasn't programmed to have one, you can connect one point to the next. It's logical. Nearly all of Shiroe's major decisions can be traced back to points before it and it'll make logical sense why he arrived at the point he arrived in. There's no blatant jump in logic.

The first episode of Log Horizon sets a good precedent of what the series can offer. When Shiroe trips on a rock, we are told by his conversation with Naotsugu that he is taller than he was in real life because he made his game avatar taller. This sets up not only one facet of the world but also the introduction of Akatsuki in the next scene. Akatsuki is a relatively short college girl, only she’s stuck in a tall, gangly male avatar. It’s a much more extreme situation than Shiroe is in. Luckily, Shiroe has an appearance-changing potion from a one-time event. But it is here that the series presents the first appearance of its defining characteristic: an escalation curve.

Here, it establishes Shiroe’s minor alteration before introducing a major one. And as the series progressed, we encounter another character in the same dilemma and several hints of a much bigger plotline for the occurrence of such players.

Because that is, in essence, the crowning glory of Log Horizon: world-building and story-building by exploring the implications.

Consider Brandon Sanderson's Third Law of Magic:

"Expand on what you have already, before you add something new."

It is important to consider the effects that a magic will have on a world. If for example your magic can create food out of thin air, what will that cause, what will happen? How will it affect trade, politics, warfare, education and social norms? Asking these questions and working out what effects your magic system will add depth to your world.


That is the series in a nutshell. It simply takes advantage of the fact that MMORPG mechanics allow for a pretty strong backbone in constructing a hard magic system. In fact, it’s one of the easiest ways of establishing a hard magic system, really.

Hard magic systems, as opposed to soft magic systems, have clearly defined rules so that the reader can understand and predict them, in accordance with Brandon Sanderson’s first of three laws of magic: “An author's ability to solve conflict with magic is directly proportional to how well the reader understands said magic.”

This allows the reader/viewer to participate in the storytelling because the reader/viewer now has a clearer idea of what the characters can do and if he/she is quick enough, he/she can predict what the characters could and would do based on their capabilities.

As for the one other ability Shiroe has that you may deride, his "Full Control Encounter", it's a thing. Gamers call it game sense. It's a simple exercise of knowing the game well enough that you can predict what an enemy will do based on what is his best option. That's it. You just ask yourself "If I'm in his shoes, what's my best option?" And then you assume that's what he's going to do. The moment an enemy decides not to do the most efficient thing he can do at that moment, Shiroe is stumped.

I follow the Dota 2 esport scenes and these decision-makings are prevalent. When pro players casts games, you are given insight in how their minds work. It's possible, for example, for a carry player from one team anticipate which items the carry player from another team will buy and act to proactively counter it.

It's just about knowing the game enough that you can make solid predictions on the best course of action the enemy has.

Outside of that, Shiroe isn't really impressive at all. He has to perform an unnecessary dungeon raid because he sucks at the "empathy" that is defined as the "ability to put himself in other people's shoes". He can read the game. He can't read people. For example, he can't read the dilemma of Kinjou and why he was hesitant to grant Shiroe his big request.
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Goblin Slayer is like Berserk without plot and with more"rape-fanservice". It's just borderline ero-guro if ya ask me. Some people may like it but to be objective the major reason people enjoy it because it's edgy hardcore enough without being marked as H.
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Anyone who's watching this show because they enjoy the rape is a fucking disgusting waste of oxygen. In hentai I can sort of understand it, but this isn't hentai, and it's absolutely not something you're meant to find fun or, God forbid, hot. Re-evaluate yourselves, you subhumans.


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Please reread the title of this thread and "tell us what you like and dislike about Goblin Slayer".
so basically you state your opinion and leave the thread, is that it? how about having a discussion, no? what a waste of time...
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More like the rest of the world lacks common sense.
Wow look at Goblin Slayer's super genius idea of wearing a helmet.
Wow let's not enter a cave full of monsters when you can just set a fire in the entrance and smoke them out. Creative and intelligent.

I like this anime exactly because stupidity gets punished in the form of all these newbies getting raped.
Goblins in this setting can be replaced entirely by human bandits which also pillage, plunder, kidnap, and rape. Practically nothing will change. Goblins genocide is just easier to justify since they aren't human.


The world in anime never have common sense. Hence the phrase anime logic. I am not comparing anime to real life, I am comparing this MC to other generic hero in other anime.
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Just "Go read the fking LN/Manga". The anime so far has been disappointing. If you are looking for an isekai anime, go to tensei slime instead.
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Please reread the title of this thread and "tell us what you like and dislike about Goblin Slayer".
so basically you state your opinion and leave the thread, is that it? how about having a discussion, no? what a waste of time...

People with common sense know the difference between a proper discussion/argument and a senseless angry toxic headstrong defensive opinionated argument. Please be more civilised and be kinder to other people's opinions.

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Honestly people out here bitching about the rape scene and shit like that, meanwhile I'm over here throwing up every time the lazy bastards at white fox use that awful CG model for Goblin slayer. Other then that I'm still kinda neutral on this one, like we're gonna need more than just Goblin slayer steamrolling his way through goblin hordes for me to get more invested.

Gentle reminder: NO TOXICTY.

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Anyone who's watching this show because they enjoy the rape is a fucking disgusting waste of oxygen. In hentai I can sort of understand it, but this isn't hentai, and it's absolutely not something you're meant to find fun or, God forbid, hot. Re-evaluate yourselves, you subhumans.

Gentle reminder: NO TOXICTY.
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I really like it when the Goblin Slayer enters and he has its own theme which really suits the entire show. I really like how authentic the scene feels. I really felt uncomfortable and disgusted when normally I wouldn't really care. Its very immersive so far
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I've started reading the manga years ago since the first chapters got translated and posted on the internet and i think it's a 6/10 - 7/10 at best manga with cool art, it's not pretentious and not really original but it's entertaining, at least for me.

People who are making a big deal out of the violence are just people who never touched anything grim and violent before like Devilman, Violence Jack etc...

The outrage only exists because nowadays it's cool to do it, to have a feeling of moral superiority and dopamine rush.

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It barely has 2 eps, so I dont think a formal critize can be done yet, but based on my first impresions of the first episode, it looks kinda interesting, but Im afraid it may go for the path of ''sensationalism''. But maybe it gets better with progress and it may took a dark turn on ''dark medievalism'' and get quite a refreshing new setting, but I doubt it because its anime, and it tends to be the same thing but with different colours. Also, I dont read manga so my hopes only rely on what a will see next.
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