The Hottest Pickup On AliExpress
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- Опубликовано: 4 апр 2025
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It warms this old man's heart to see a young buck in an Exhorder t-shirt ripping an At The Gates riff on a video opener.
Saw Exhorder live two weeks ago, they ripped!!
everything nostalgic warms your heart its been causing issues
Ah yes the Oops! All Rails! pickup. Doesn't sound half bad. Definitely an interesting idea.
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Nice one got me good
Rails resulted from all that Fender has done. Which means it's an ultimate. Just misunderstood, and it's the people that were incapable to find a use for it.
the pickup doesnt sounds that bad, its would have been fun to put the pickup on the clean channel to see how it distorts. love your vids, extremely underrated
@@TheLowestLow oh shit
@@TheLowestLow what a twist!
I have a clean and dirty demo after I wax potted it on my yt channel
@@TheLowestLowI’ve owned 3 of these pickups and thats not true lol
I bought one to breathe fire in my guitar, but was kind of blown away by how good it sounded clean. It also plays nicely with my split coil dimebucker in the bridge, and when both are split is a really pleasant, I would say mild Strat-like tone?
I got a matched pair of cheap quad rail buckers from a UK brand called Warman. Believe the set was around 30€ pre-brexit, probably also chinese made, and they are wonderful metal steamrollers too.
They came with wiring instructions and I installed them with a split switch. The split sound is relatively singlecoil-ish but with the benefit of still having the humbucking effect. Pretty happy with the tonal versatility tbh.
Glad to see the Quadrail is making a comeback.
It did the Extreme thing EXTREMELY well!!😮👌 That Pup deserves a forever home!🤣
what
I've had good experiences with Off-Brand pickups.... they sounded as I would expect for the design, and didn't malfunction.
Where do you buy them from?
Easy way to pot your cheapo AliExpress pickups - Buy a cheap non-scented typical candle in a jar, put it in your slow cooker/crockpot on low until it melts and literally just put the pickups in that for 10 minutes. Voila, you just wax potted your super cheap pickups for a few dollars/pounds and without making a mess.
But would it be so bad to shred with a pumpkin spice scented pickups?😂
@@Duskydog419 Lmao I mean, people seem to love their fretbiard smelling like lemon. Why not have pickups that smell like the ocean or freshly baked cookies??? Maybe even stick a car air freshener in the control cavities😂
The different scale lengths might be throwing off the accuracy of the comparison between guitars. Longer scale guitars have a closer relative bridge pickup position which makes them sound brighter
DC resistance tells us how long is the wire used on coils, it usually corresponds to number of turns/windings around core - which is "hotness" of the pickup, but since we have 4 cores instead of usual 2 there should theoretically more turns > bigger output
I've seen some of those Chinese mini rails listed as alnico 5 magnets and around 6/7k resistance.
Based on that they should have a very "vintage" single tone.
Doesn't look that hot from the specs.
Which is cool if that's the case, bringing the rails advantages to vintage tones, not only for overpushed metal machines.
but it also depends on the gauge of the wire.
Looks like a copy of the Kent Armstrong Motherbucker, which was also the basis of several BKP models. The calling card for the Kent Armstrong is that you can set it up for a multitude of switching options to get a wide variety of sounds from just one pickup.
Probably could do the same with this one, once you figured out the wiring.
I mean, a Super D is pretty hot for 1972. They sound great in a Les Paul. DiMarzio (and Duncan, BKP…even Gibson) make plenty of pickups that smoke it. I’d call a Super D a medium output pickup these days. I hate rail pickups. Never found one that didn’t drive me up a wall.
The exceptions to this are Lace pickups where the bobbin sits in a grounded steel channel and occasionally Fender will put a shielding ring around a pickup and ground it.
I don't really agree with your "I'm not going to waxpot a cheap pickup". I bought some invader clones from aliexpress for dirt cheap, the only problem with them was that they were feedbacking, but after wax potting it went away and they actually sound great. I have a guitar with EMGs and I like these clones way better and I put them in one of my main guitar. I'm currently selling my EMGs and I want to replace them also with a pair of these clones.
Pickups don’t have shielding, just potting to prevent vibration-based feedback.
I saw one made by Saphue that they advertise as 15-16k but a few reviews said they measured it at 18k.
THE TONE IS KILLER!! sounds so close to an evh type
Love that Exhorder shirt! Bought the same one not too long ago
So glad to hear so many people fond of Louisiana metal bands like Exhorder and Acid Bath.
@@sole__doubt legendary bands!
AliExpress pickups be like: “Good luck Installing this bro!”
Why?
All the wires are there. You just solder the wires where they go and you're done.
Just like any other pickup.
it's not really rocket science, all the aliexpress humbuckers I bought had 5 wires, 2 pairs of them were always soldered together, so from there it is really easy to figure it out. The single wire is always the hot (north start), the one that is soldered together with the bare wire is the ground (south start-bare shield) and the other two are for the coil split (north finish-south finish).
I was actually ordering these pickups for my guitar build im working on! I literally just ordered them yesterday, all the demos ive found they sound sick on
Would have been cool if you also recorded the original PGM pickup for comparison
=)
These sounds nuts! But the malmsteen was perfect
Shielding is not on the pickup, it's in the body and pickguard. Wax potting is very cheap and easy, I think if all else is good about the pickup, it's worth it.
The DC resistance is an indication of windings, the higher it is the more windings. In the mid 80's I had a Peavey T60, it had rails, and OMG that thing squealed so bad, I took it back. My 1983 Gibson Sonex Deluxe with Velvet Bricks was awesome, now that it's old and the windings have gotten loose it has a feedback issue, I plan to wax pot them soon.
Props for showing a Washburn Guitar while mentioning the Bill Lawrence Humbucker. Thats rare ;)
Wait… At the gates? Off the rip? Subscribed!!!
Dimarzio's Super Distortion name is a bit misleading in modern times. It's named that because it was relatively a very high output PU by the standard's of the late 70's and early 80's. By today's Standard the output isn't even that high. That doesn't mean that it isn't good for metal, it still is ❤
That slaugther of the soul playing was the best ive ever hear
Thanks!
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Dayum bro , I see it’s an older vid but that play’n is Righteous man. Any pickup would sound good with jamm’n like that - just my opinion but that was cool.
I hung out a few times with Exhorder!! Well just during a rehearsal session. Fantastic band
Nice At The Gates riffing. It sounds killer \m/
Thanks! 😎😎
Good stuff...
Do have a suggestion though.... Could you do a video on EXACTLY how to wax pot some pickups? Like, the whole process? Type of wax... all the stuff involved?
(see partial answer below)
I don’t hate this pickup either, but I see what you mean about the feedback. I wouldn’t want to sit there wax potting a cheap pickup - you may as well buy a pickup that’s $10-$20 more that is already shielded because the supplies to do the wax potting will cost at least that if not more (plus time is money too!). However, what about it shielding the inside of the electronics cavity? That takes less time/effort, and the investment in the necessary supplies (basically shielding paint and a brush or shielding tape/foil) might make it more cost effective and worth doing. It’s not a sure fix, though, but I would think it’s likely to help in most cases if someone wants to make a habit of buying cheap pickups on the regular.
Hows about a cheapo form of 'wax potting' like a hot glue gun??
And yeah I dont mind doing the shielding
@petegaslondon No, you'll never get hot glue inside the windings even with vacuum...it's too thick.. A round crock pot can be retrofitted with a flat acrylic/Plexiglas/Perspex cover and a gentle vacuum line. I don't know how much vacuum, but not a lot, just enough to see bubbles exiting the pickup windings.
Some companies use common candle wax and dismiss 'boutique recipes', others use 80% candle wax and 20% beeswax (less brittle & smells good). I don't know if it sounds different. A tour of a guitar factory's pickup winding department with a 'tourist' asking about comparison of wax recipes produced a hostile response about 20% beeswax...I say "never say never"...try it yourself.
And remember candle wax BURNS, so it is flammable. Don't overheat it. In some countries paraffin is the name for kerosene. Jet fuel is refined kerosene (not rocket fuel). Candle wax is a petroleum derivative (Gulf used to be the most common brand I saw in USA in the past). So, again, do NOT overheat your freakin' wax.
In USA, paraffin wax terminology is sometimes encountered.
I have the Bareknuckle Blackhawk quad rail pickups in one of my guitars. Quite fond of the way those sound.
This is actually the best $6 sound I have ever heard and I am not even a big fan os high output pickups. I may be buying one.
If I close my eyes you almost sound like Guitar MAX lol. Great video!
Ah I was expecting some clean/overdriven comparisons - lot easier to tell the difference between pickups when they're clean, even super hot ones. With that much gain for shred they basically sound identical.
Since you've played it in so many videos now, THE HE-MAN WOMAN HATER IS NOT PICKED, IT'S LEGATO. It's what gives it that funky time-feel
No way it's legato, you can hear the pick attack
Paul Gilbert seeing you not being an electrician 😶
Glenn showed pickups dont matter, half a pop tart sounded the same as BKPs or Fishmans
I have one of those Quadrails in one of my cheaper handman guitars from a friend, and man, it screams so much.
My omen 6 came stock with a 14.6k neck pickup and it’s not any louder than my other neck pickups in the 6-9k range. Also it has squeaky clean tones running it through a Mesa Mark I.
14.6k is the wire coil resistance measurement. Assumption is often made that the magnetic pole pieces for each string are strong and matched to the coil windings. I suspect schecter skimped on the magnets.
Actually the hottest quad rail humbucker I know of is from Warman Guitars UK. The Drivetrain. Few sound bites to be found but the one I did find sounded great.
This reminds me of the BKP that's 4 rails, except it's designed more like dual-rail single coils just in a humbucker iirc. Rails are nice for multi-scale guitars with angled pickups so poles not aligning isn't an issue.
I have the Blackhawks in a Kiesel 7-string. I like them a lot.
From your buying experience, are the pickups from AliExpress, or DGgate microphonic? Thanks for any insight. 🙂
Kramer did a pickup like that called the Quadrail and it was a very dark muddy pickup, sounded way better when split.
Ayyyyy solid At The Gates riffs
Both sounded good.
I purchased the same pickup except I got mine on eBay I use mine at the neck and it actually distorts and doesn't have that muddy sound that usually comes with distorting on the neck pickup
I recall a triple humbucker back in the 90s called a "motherbucker," but I think it was just a rails humbucker and a single coil in a widened pickup slot.
I thought the quad coil sounded good! I suppose you could easily wax pot it.
It actually kinda rips man. I’d keep it in that guitar for sure. And… why not dip it in wax and see if it makes a difference. Would be kind of a cool experiment!
I have a demo of that on my channel
I'll say it too man, they sound pretty good. Not bad certainly. Some people like a hot pickup that feeds back a little. I wonder how it would sound by the neck? Btw if those four wires are actually all connected normally you could wire this several ways. I imagine coil split or putting bridge out of phase with the neck in 'both' position. Whatever. Four rails looks cool.
I'm building a guitar with interchangeable pickups, and full electronics for whatever pickups you plug into it. The quadrails do A/B/both and phase. So you can split the north or south coil and do stuff like inner and outer coils. By and large they behave like two coil humbuckers with split. But they do have 2 small coils each for "north" and "south" with the rails adjacent to opposite poles of the magnets, so they should still hum cancel in split modes (never tested it, and never noticed a problem). I've done at least a dozen builds with quadrails.
That actually sounded rather good 👍 even with the slight feed back.
And luckily for you I am an Electrician ⚡️⚡️
Slaughter of the soul tuned up!?!??!?!?!??!
Sick riffage bro im 31 and hate the new death core stuff so happy to hear some of stuff
I was just admiring a 4-color model. I generally hate hot pickups, but I may try a pair just for the look.
Like the Kramer labeled "quad rails" pickup.
The K-man buying the cheap stuff on Aliexpress so we dont have to. :)
So have you heard of a Kent Armstrong Typhoon it’s roughly 22k ohms
I was thinking Kent Armstrong as well! Just posted a comment that this looks like a clone of the Kent Armstrong Motherbucker.
@@nicholasnguyen8308 and they are less than 50USD
I actually own a few of these. I even a-b'd them against some other pickups I have, including the Railhammer Anvil, the Lace Drop and Gain, the Lace D3 Sabertooth, the Bare Knuckle Painkiller, the Lundgren M6, and the Seymour Duncan Nazgul. This little quad rail sounded better than all of those.
Your Mileage may vary - but I'm intrigued
Pers I dont mind adding shielding :)
@@petegaslondon I mean, yes, they are sort of microphonic. But that doesn't matter to me because I put a noise gate before my amp.
Please build a guitar fully out of ali express parts 😂
Dimarzio Super Distortion is not the hottest one. X2N used to be the hottest, but I've even encountered pickups with 20k+ Ohm... Gets so muddy for me
How can anyone tell the difference between pickups with the hyper-distortion sound?
the quad rails were a little less bright
Your playing is super smooth and clean! Loved this video!
add to the hand made custom stainless steel pick guard that I mounted them in which is in itself shielding, I get good full range sound...lol but then I run my signal through a Blackstar ID Core 40 watt stereo amp from it's 3.5 mm earphone output in the tiny amp into the CD input ,of my surround receiver and out through the full system, sub woofer included and the tones are great..lol ...yup yup I like it loud....
thats so f**kin dope.
Slaughter of the soul! Glad you're back to the Ali express stuff!
Pickup height is the trick for these. The rails provide bigger flux field so dont be scared to lower em so your strings are in the most field lines
I lowered them as much as possible hahah
Kaylen browsing AliExpress? Never! /s
why not wax pot it?. it would be a good video to illustrate whether it improves the pu, or not. cheers.
Warman Drivetrain quad rail. 28k ohms. Only found 1 video seems very clean with good tone. Can't find the comparison video any more. The Ali express sux in comparison.
Peavey did a quad rail pickup for The Cropper Classic
Btw, do you know if it’s possible to get one of those Solar fret thingies (I wouldn’t quite call it a wrap) that is on your Washburn? Do you know of other brands that make a similar design?
aim curious if there’s a difference between a traditional FretWrap vs. one of those thingies. FretWrap sells a little block to go under the strings to help with overtones without muting open strings. Then all make a massive thing for bass that looks like a larger version of your Solar thingie, but it goes near the bridge to create a palm muting thump. I never saw a thingie like Solar’s, so I’m curious what the difference is and why you’d choose that over other available products or vice versa.
Maybe it’s a good future video topic to compare all these products and show the purposes, differences, and which brands work best depending on the guitar being used (ie: guitar vs bass and acoustic vs electric). I never saw a video showing all the available products and really demonstrating which are best and why you’d want to use each.
I don't actually know who makes things like that or if you can buy them, Ola gave me a few at NAMM.
Jimmy Clips is what you are looking for.
I have 2 of theirs.@@mtus647
Sorry, but the true moral from this story is:
Dont buy anything ever from ali-express or temu...!!!😅
do you have an Orange Micro Dark review? :0
Awesome playing Sir
I've got a Wilkinson humbucker and it actually is decent, not amazing but better than the stock ones some cheaper guitars have
Feeling the yngwie malmsteen vibe 😊
Dude...holy shit...your right hand is like a machine.
Nice He man cover!!!
It sounds great! Problem is, all those people who spent lots on hot pups, ( I recently bought a pair of Hot Rails), are going to be butt hurt.
Sounds decent 🎉
Hierauf habe ich lange gewartet
Exhorder ? wow they were an obscure 80s band I had their first album slaughter in the vatican. Surprised you younger guys have heard of them
Saw them live earlier this year
I was surprised…the cheap pickup sounded quite good…however, I could tell you really enjoyed playing that N2 way more👍
That's also just cause it's a much better guitar than that cheap modern Ibanez 🤣🤣
What's the pcb on 3:14 about? on board preamp? If yes were can I buy one?
That's the pickup switch on the Paul Gilbert guitar
Sounds good. Now I want 3 in a Les Paul black beauty.
I literally need a pick up like this xD, im forming a grindcore/noisecore band, so feedback=good
Sounds harsher in the Ibanez to my ears.
you have such a good taste when it comes to riffs, i love each and every one you Play. 3:18 what song is that?
The band was At The Gates, its a song of Slaughter Of The Soul but cant remember if it was the title track or another
Slaughter of the soul by At the gates! And thanks 😎
@@sixstringtv1 blessed comment 🫡
Haha nice At the Gates riffing in standard to demo the pup \m/
it costs 7 euro and 11 US cents? PASS
All Aliexoress pickups i've tried has been total carbage! Allthough those cost nothing better just invest for second hand Duncans or Dimarzios if your'e on a budget!
Do you guys ever fret the highest fret, then play the string behind the fret finger then slide to the first fret? It sounds pretty cool.
Sick riffing dude. Nice picking skills.
Link?👀👀
Call me crazy but i thought the cheap quad railbucker murdered the Bill Lawrence XL500 here
Sounded fine to me.
Sounds legit.
where to buy this pickup