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Sep 4, 2015 10:20 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Mm, I feel like Iris and Mizuki's relationship slightly improved.

The episode focuses more on the technological aspect. It doesn't look like it went well though, at least in space. Thrilling second half compared to first half although pacing has an oddball feeling to it imo. That's the risk it comes with space exploration I guess. Another weird cliffhanger.

Sep 4, 2015 1:10 PM
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Well of course it couldn't be THAT easy. What will you do now Nagisa?
Sep 4, 2015 1:16 PM
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So...Nagisa is actually not the real Nagisa/heir to the families? It's Pilot-chan?
Sep 4, 2015 1:35 PM
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Well shiiiiiiiiit. Only a few more episodes left. No way are we getting a second season so how will this be resolved?
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Sep 4, 2015 1:38 PM
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I see, Nagisa is not the real heir to the family. Iris is the real one.
Sep 4, 2015 1:43 PM
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Wow, it's been some time that i was that shocked. Incredible stuff shown here.

Politics are ruthless, Kazuhisa outtrumped Nagisa! His last hope for saving A-TEC is gone....

And it looks like Iris is actually Nagisa! What the hell happened here?!

Mizuki actually fell in love with the Nagisa that we know!

EDIT: WHY THE FUCK IS THIS 6,51 HERE? At this point, this is the most underrated anime i have ever watched.
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Smudy said:
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS 6,51 HERE? At this point, this is the most underrated anime i have ever watched.
Probably because the first few episodes were incredibly boring and uninteresting. At that point it definitely deserved it and a lot of people dropped it. I'd expect it to climb pretty hard when it ends due to the 1/5 rule though. Wouldn't surprise me if it ends up like Yuri Kuma Arashi or similar and gets a bit above 7 when it's over

Either way, this episode was pretty great. The plot twist about who the real Nagisa is was rather unexpected but I liked it a lot. The last few episodes should be pretty interesting
Sep 4, 2015 1:56 PM
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I'm beyond mindfucked right now.....Iris is actually Nagisa and Nagisa is someone else?!?!?!

Iris is a girl though not a guy WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!!!

Man this episode was compelling as fuck....Just when we thought that Nagisa was winning the rug got swept right beneath him... FUCK....Damn you older Kiryu brother

The one shining light of this episode was that declaration of love....Everything about that scene was just perfect
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Sep 4, 2015 2:08 PM
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I'm honestly incredibly impressed by this show. To have such a rough start but then to keep throwing these intriguing plot twists is very cool. I am so into this. And wow, that last twist I never expected. Iris is the actual heir and now, I have no idea how this will end. I was pretty sure it would end pretty typically but I am continually surprised by this show so I expect some pretty cool fireworks at the end.

The only expected element of this last episode was the fact that Nagisa wouldn't come out the victor between him and his older brother. He still has a lot to learn about manipulating the system.
Sep 4, 2015 2:11 PM
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what the actual fuck just happened. I mean I get it but I'm not sure how I feel about it. In fact I'm more interested in what nagisa's name is if its not nagisa. Is it iris? Also how do you not realize your daughter became your son unless the pilot is actually a dude which would explain the attraction to whats-her-face and dispel the yuri undertones (not a fan)
Sep 4, 2015 2:16 PM

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Bomb has been dropped... run for your life, plot!
Sep 4, 2015 2:20 PM

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what the actual fuck just happened. I mean I get it but I'm not sure how I feel about it. In fact I'm more interested in what nagisa's name is if its not nagisa. Is it iris? Also how do you not realize your daughter became your son unless the pilot is actually a dude which would explain the attraction to whats-her-face and dispel the yuri undertones (not a fan)

It's not that they didn't know, it's that this has been the plan all along. I'm sure from a far earlier part in their lifetime, our Nagisa has been protecting Iris by assuming her identity as Nagisa. This actually saved Iris the fate that our Nagisa had to go through, being whipped into a Kiryu puppet literally, while Iris got to live on without the knowledge of who she really is.

I'm sure that bit of taunting Nagisa did to Iris in the beginning was partly out of jealousy having avoided her fate, and an acknowledgement that they accomplished their goal -- she's now living a normal life away from the political turmoil it means to be a Kiryu or a Shinamiya.
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Cresse said:
what the actual fuck just happened. I mean I get it but I'm not sure how I feel about it. In fact I'm more interested in what nagisa's name is if its not nagisa. Is it iris? [...]

Basically what I was thinking after that episode lmao

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Cresse said:
what the actual fuck just happened. I mean I get it but I'm not sure how I feel about it. In fact I'm more interested in what nagisa's name is if its not nagisa. Is it iris? Also how do you not realize your daughter became your son unless the pilot is actually a dude which would explain the attraction to whats-her-face and dispel the yuri undertones (not a fan)

It's not that they didn't know, it's that this has been the plan all along. I'm sure from a far earlier part in their lifetime, our Nagisa has been protecting Iris by assuming her identity as Nagisa. This actually saved Iris the fate that our Nagisa had to go through, being whipped into a Kiryu puppet literally, while Iris got to live on without the knowledge of who she really is.
yea that makes sense but it still doesn't sit right you know? cause theyre so manipulative. I mean sure you have this imposter who you basically raised to feel inadequate and play by your rules but how are you gonna have a huge loose end like the real heir right there under your nose. But its anime so theyll probably use that to save the nagisa we know somehow
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Cresse said:
what the actual fuck just happened. I mean I get it but I'm not sure how I feel about it. In fact I'm more interested in what nagisa's name is if its not nagisa. Is it iris? [...]

Basically what I was thinking after that episode lmao

I wouldn't doubt his name really is Iris. This identity assumption may have been planned out before they were even born or shortly after. Considering the implications of the baby, it'd be hard to imagine they hadn't assumed something really terrible down the road from early on.
Sep 4, 2015 2:35 PM

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Wow.......... So Iris is the real Nagisa.
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sirflimflam said:
Cresse said:
what the actual fuck just happened. I mean I get it but I'm not sure how I feel about it. In fact I'm more interested in what nagisa's name is if its not nagisa. Is it iris? Also how do you not realize your daughter became your son unless the pilot is actually a dude which would explain the attraction to whats-her-face and dispel the yuri undertones (not a fan)

It's not that they didn't know, it's that this has been the plan all along. I'm sure from a far earlier part in their lifetime, our Nagisa has been protecting Iris by assuming her identity as Nagisa. This actually saved Iris the fate that our Nagisa had to go through, being whipped into a Kiryu puppet literally, while Iris got to live on without the knowledge of who she really is.

I'm sure that bit of taunting Nagisa did to Iris in the beginning was partly out of jealousy having avoided her fate, and an acknowledgement that they accomplished their goal -- she's now living a normal life away from the political turmoil it means to be a Kiryu or a Shinamiya.


If what Sasayama (previous A-TEC) says is true, I think it's probably because Kazuhisa only cares taking over 30% Shinamiya's stock by having affair with Nagisa's mother. He doesn't care whether the child is boy or girl since he thinks it as a tool to get what he wants. I wont be surprised If nagisa's mother is actually killed by him.
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ojiro said:
sirflimflam said:

It's not that they didn't know, it's that this has been the plan all along. I'm sure from a far earlier part in their lifetime, our Nagisa has been protecting Iris by assuming her identity as Nagisa. This actually saved Iris the fate that our Nagisa had to go through, being whipped into a Kiryu puppet literally, while Iris got to live on without the knowledge of who she really is.

I'm sure that bit of taunting Nagisa did to Iris in the beginning was partly out of jealousy having avoided her fate, and an acknowledgement that they accomplished their goal -- she's now living a normal life away from the political turmoil it means to be a Kiryu or a Shinamiya.


If what Sasayama (previous A-TEC) says is true, I think it's probably because Kazuhisa only cares taking over 30% Shinamiya's stock by having affair with Nagisa's mother. He doesn't care whether the child is boy or girl since he thinks it as a tool to get what he wants. I wont be surprised If nagisa's mother is actually killed by him.


Oh, I actually misread what he had said originally -- yeah, the father probably never even had any real contact with the child in the first place. By the time he had contact, they probably already switched our Nagisa in Iris's place.
Sep 4, 2015 3:03 PM

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Wtf. This absolutely confused me. Where the he'll is this plot leading to?
Sep 4, 2015 3:17 PM

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Wow, did the plot every thicken...Didn't expect them to swap identities. Kind of weird now though, since that would make Nagisa (male) Iris, which isn't a boys name.

With the climax of the series, I wonder how things are going to play out now; will the two persons of interest keep their current identities, or will Iris take over as the new boss (but that wouldn't really work out since she doesn't have the skills to be a CEO)? Or better yet, I hope the series ends with Iris x Nagisa...then the future of the company will truly be secured...and the Kiriyu's will have to answer to their crimes of corporate and political corruption, and murder charges with that assassination attempt in the past.

This feels like it should be a 12 episode series, but with both the novel and manga still on-going, I can't say I want to stick around for it all unless it gets really good and hooks me back in.
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Wow.......... So Iris is the real Nagisa.


And what exactly has that added to the story?
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Sep 4, 2015 3:49 PM

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O wow, this episode was pretty much great. Last bit of the episode really kept more of my attention. Unbelievable what you can do when you have so much power. What now, Nagisa? That damn cliffhanger. Looking forward to the next episode.


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This would make a lot more sense if the old guy who was dying at the end didn't refer to "iris" as "he". She is obviously a girl so why would the people protecting her not refer to her as a girl... I hope there are no plot holes by the end of the series.
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This would make a lot more sense if the old guy who was dying at the end didn't refer to "iris" as "he". She is obviously a girl so why would the people protecting her not call a boy... I hope there are no plot holes by the end of the series.


Well Iris most likely was disguised as a boy because stuff like that happens. I guess the current Nagisa took the name for himself so that he can take all the flame that Iris would've taken, thus protecting her.
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I kinda had my doubts with Iris' loss of memory, figures out I wasn't that out of the bullseye. So she is the real heir, welp........it matters little at this point who is who, for unless they can beat Kazuhisa, nothing will hold any meaning.

Not sure how Kazuhisa was able to turn the tables. We all saw that this guy was obviously going to be A LOT more difficult to handle than the incompetent Yuji. What kind of leverage he pulled I have no clue, but clearly this guy has a lot of dirt on him, if that could be dug on, then he could be done for. Either that or start digging dirt on a lot of the politicians involved to sway their vote.

Oh lord, we have 2 episodes remaining? I guess the next one is gonna be the build up before the true final battle?
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Really did wonder why Nagisa was named like that even though he is a boy. And why Nagisa was always so concerned of Iris..Iris is really Nagisa.

Poor Nagisa, there are really a lot of traitors out there.

Yay! Mizuki's declaration of love! Thank you Iris for bringing this development up!

Don't Worry Nagisa, atleast A-TEC won't betray you especially Mizuki. :)

Nagisa is really the one protectiong Iris and not the other way around. That's why Hanako mentioned that Iris name might not be her true name.
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Nice ep didn't see that coming ...
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OK so let me get this straight... FingerprintS, DNA tests and I don't know A F#CKING BIRTH CERTIFICATE that would clearly say that nagisa is a girl all don't existe in the FUTURE?!?


They don't actually need to do that, considering Kazuhisa's widespread influence.
He could just KILL EVERYONE WHO IS RELATED TO THE SHINAMIYA FAMILY like what his father did.
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OK so let me get this straight... FingerprintS, DNA tests and I don't know A F#CKING BIRTH CERTIFICATE that would clearly say that nagisa is a girl all don't existe in the FUTURE?!?

Seems legit...
Just wanted clear that up


All those records could be forged. It's obvious that this bodyguard family planned on protecting Nagisa whatever the cost. Also, it looks like the father never even saw his kid in all those years, especially since all he was interested in where the stocks. The mother obviously took precautions and told him that Nagisa was a boy and even if the guy had come to see him, they would just use fake Nagisa as the double. He probably didn't even think to have a DNA test done since he knew he seduced the mother.
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ArchimeM said:
OK so let me get this straight... FingerprintS, DNA tests and I don't know A F#CKING BIRTH CERTIFICATE that would clearly say that nagisa is a girl all don't existe in the FUTURE?!?

Seems legit...
Just wanted clear that up


Fingerprints differ from person to person but don't differ based on gender, and you cannot identify somebody's fingerprint from a sample unless you specifically look for differences(and lift their fingerprint from something, they're fucking stupid or just really patient if they're going to let you examine their finger and compare it to a sample because that shit takes a while by hand and would otherwise need to go through a database), something that most people aren't going to do unless there's suspicion of identity theft or forgery. In addition, it's likely that Iris and "Nagisa" were switched at or soon after birth, and it's doubtful that Yasuhisa would be present for his bastard child's birth. DNA tests can be faked by switching the serum used for it. Birth certificates can obviously be forged. Though it's never stated explicitly, it should be clear that the above were probably used in the case of an identity swap. Of course, it's not foolproof, but it takes first suspicion and then some digging to uncover it.

Back to the episode:
Did some googling and Nagisa is a unisex name. Probably didn't see the whole "Nagisa isn't actually Nagisa" thing coming but the question now is where do they go from here
Iris--I mean Nagisa is fucked, eject button ABORT ABORT
Nagisa--I mean who the fuck is this guy now is fucked into the goddamn toilet, jesus on top of the world one minute, fucked by Kazuhisa the next, also d'aww he keeps flashing back to Mizuki and A-TEC, may as well be his real family, not those fucker Kiryus
Mizuki wants the guy in her skirt and if Kaito gets word of it his reaction will be fucking hilarious

This director can NOT write a coherent story. This shit is all over the goddamn place between the school stuff and the political stuff. The latter of the two is interesting but dry and the former is cool but feels out of place, though if you view it through the lens of "Nagisa feels like he found the family he never had" then it makes more sense why all the classroom stuff is there but it still has a hard time making room for itself, especially because the whole "high school setting" thing is pretty well-worn nowadays.

However, I do have to hand it to them for making character development much more "show" than "tell". Nagisa is certainly torn between his foster family A-TEC and his schemes for vengeance, and now that the latter has failed miserably and Kazuhisa is about to beat his ass down, I have a feeling A-TEC is going to come out swinging for Nagisa somehow, probably at the behest of Mizuki because nobody else really has a personal reason to give a shit about him. I also feel that if Mizuki hadn't come up to Nagisa and at least try to have him accepted(which eventually, if grudgingly, he was at least tolerated since he stopped making constant threats about disbanding them and started doing stuff with them), Nagisa probably wouldn't have tried to save A-TEC from being disbanded while trying to carry out his vengeance, even if it did fit into his plans. Once word gets out from Hanako, I'll bet A-TEC comes in to shit on everything.
Show's certainly picked up quite a bit in the past few episodes, though I'm concerned that they have two episodes to resolve all these plot threads.
Sep 5, 2015 12:24 AM

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Sooo that's why Mizuki said that the name "Nagisa" is meant for girls.. am i right?
or Could it be that..!!! Shirasaki is the greatest TRAP???... please tell me not...
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Sep 5, 2015 12:29 AM

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OMG this anime makes me really excited! I could feel blood pumped into my brain at the end of the episode.

Best anime of the season (for now)!
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KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!! Aaaaaaaand the Mizuki x Iris ship got sunk to the bottom of the fucking ocean.

So Nagisa's efforts got dicked over again by his asshole brother making backdoor deals. Gotta love how CEO brother is legit a corporate criminal of the highest caliber, but nobody has shit on him. Typical felony dodger. The dude even took part in an orchestrated massacre for fucks sake.

I don't even understand what happened there. 2 characters we've never seen before were the "leaders" of the two political parties, and just made some deal out of nowhere. That shit was so unnecessarily out of left field.

Soooooo Nagis is Iris and Iris is Nagisa? So that means that Iris is actually the last blood relative of the opposite family of the company, and Nagisa is actually a part of the fucking slave family who's lives don't mean shit. It looks like it was set up intentionally though, since when that old man died, Nagisa was wearing a toddler dress and Iris was wearing boys overalls.

What benefit does Iris' existence even provide though? Ok, so she's the last remaining survivor of the rival family. She has like no knowledge of it, not an ounce of political or business knowledge. She may have the family blood, but her existence really means nothing...unless there's some crazy twist where the last remaining heir gets like controlling stock of the Kiryu corporation or something.

Can Iris learn how to pilot again please? Looks like she just crashed another multi-billion dollar space ship. We get it, you had some scary moments in your past. Get the fuck over it.

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EDIT: WHY THE FUCK IS THIS 6,51 HERE? At this point, this is the most underrated anime i have ever watched.

Because despite the interesting parts the show may have now, we just finished episode 10, and it took like 6-7 episodes just for this show to not be cringeworthy bad. When you waste half the season doing nothing fucking important, the show is going to get a poor rating.

The show itself was also promoted in the most pandering misleading way possible. "oh lets make all the posters show Mizuki and Iris hanging out, and make the synopsis say that two girls go to rocket school and build space ships".

In reality, those two get hardly any screen time, and instead we got 90% Sera-sensei doing stupid shit, and a political/family battle that nobody expected this show to have. Basically they marketed to a certain crowd by lying, then lost most of that crowd when the show actually aired, keeping only the faithful view around.

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It's funny though, because Class Crisis has a big disadvantage against other bad shows.

Take Charlotte for example. Charlotte is garbage. Probably one of the worst shows I've watched since glasslip. Like C.C., it was a show that wasted half of its season doing pointless bullshit, and didn't get even watchable until ep.6-7. Both are anime original. Both 1 cour.

So why does Charlotte have almost an 8? While CC barely holds onto a 6?

Because CC is an anime original with nobody famous behind it and it got almost no promotion. Meanwhile Charlotte has the name Jun Maeda behind it, and the show is playing off all the cliché, poorly written tropes that Maeda fans eat up.

CC = "oh, they built rocket parts and Sera-sensei acted dumb for 5 episodes...this is boring.

Charlotte = "oh, they chased down kids with super powers and the first 5 episodes followed literally an identical formula. OMG JUN MAEDA!! Such a brilliant writer!! Inb4 feels!!! AOTS!!".

CC and Charlotte are both not great, but it all comes down to promotion and name droppin.
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With a 1/5 dropped/watching ratio it's inevitable that the score would be depressed for CC. Unless you were into the boardroom and political intrigue which was the main plot action during the first few episodes, there wasn't that much to hold some viewers' interest. Things have improved, but there are still some very clumsy parts to it, for example just why is Mizuki in love with Nagisa (the male version)?
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Total mindfuck right now.
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It's funny though, because Class Crisis has a big disadvantage against other bad shows.

Take Charlotte for example. Charlotte is garbage. Probably one of the worst shows I've watched since glasslip. Like C.C., it was a show that wasted half of its season doing pointless bullshit, and didn't get even watchable until ep.6-7. Both are anime original. Both 1 cour.

So why does Charlotte have almost an 8? While CC barely holds onto a 6?

Because CC is an anime original with nobody famous behind it and it got almost no promotion. Meanwhile Charlotte has the name Jun Maeda behind it, and the show is playing off all the cliché, poorly written tropes that Maeda fans eat up.

CC = "oh, they built rocket parts and Sera-sensei acted dumb for 5 episodes...this is boring.

Charlotte = "oh, they chased down kids with super powers and the first 5 episodes followed literally an identical formula. OMG JUN MAEDA!! Such a brilliant writer!! Inb4 feels!!! AOTS!!".

CC and Charlotte are both not great, but it all comes down to promotion and name droppin.

So true =___=
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What just happened in this episode....

Had a bad feeling from the very beginning of the episode "This might not end well for Nagisa...." and it did. That brother of his was really hard to beat, able to turn things around like that. Politics, eh?

Seriously didn't expect that Iris is actually Nagisa and the other way around, that's one huge twist for me.
And it looks like they just crashed another rocket.... just when Nagisa lost his battle for the A-TEC, talk about perfect timing there...
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I don't even understand what happened there. 2 characters we've never seen before were the "leaders" of the two political parties, and just made some deal out of nowhere. That shit was so unnecessarily out of left field.


Not entirely. We all know about partisan politics as early as when Kaito was dealing with the pro-worker's party. But yes, there are some details that are just dropped with a possibility of not being addressed again, like the link between Kazuhisa and the politician he purposely bowed to in a previous isntance. Personally, I didn't mind it. All we have to know is that Kazuhisa was smarter than Nagisa had expected, and he has more trump cards than what Nagisa could ever hope for.

Unless you were into the boardroom and political intrigue which was the main plot action during the first few episodes, there wasn't that much to hold some viewers' interest.


It's quite sad, really. I was a fan of Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon, and the politics in CC, while not at the level of Kawakami's absurdity, was quite easy to understand. I guess they wanted more sci-fi than talking heads and under-the-table scheming.

Things have improved, but there are still some very clumsy parts to it, for example just why is Mizuki in love with Nagisa (the male version)?


Maybe she just understood his struggles both as a student and as a boy pushed into the role of an executive. Well, the politics have been keen on keeping them apart, so we're unable to see much of actual progress in their relationship.
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Man, Male Nagisa got fucked up badly by every single person/party... Now the question is will A-TEC be saved or will it end with its disbandment?

The only good thing that came out of this was that Mizuki loves Male Nagisa, and Well, I am actually brimming with joy on the inside lol

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Mizuki x Nagisa... I'm crying tears of joy ;w; but boy, that Iris-Nagisa plot twist though... and poor Nagisa getting one-upped by Kazuhisa...

Great show, I'm really enjoying every episode!
Sep 5, 2015 3:52 AM

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Ouch Nagisa is really in a pinch now.. what will he do to turn the tables... :o
Also Iris really needs to get by those childhood traumas.
Sep 5, 2015 3:57 AM

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Huh...Iris is the real Shinomiya !!?

I wonder what really happened
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Jonesy974 said:


It's funny though, because Class Crisis has a big disadvantage against other bad shows.

Take Charlotte for example. Charlotte is garbage. Probably one of the worst shows I've watched since glasslip. Like C.C., it was a show that wasted half of its season doing pointless bullshit, and didn't get even watchable until ep.6-7. Both are anime original. Both 1 cour.

So why does Charlotte have almost an 8? While CC barely holds onto a 6?

Because CC is an anime original with nobody famous behind it and it got almost no promotion. Meanwhile Charlotte has the name Jun Maeda behind it, and the show is playing off all the cliché, poorly written tropes that Maeda fans eat up.

CC = "oh, they built rocket parts and Sera-sensei acted dumb for 5 episodes...this is boring.

Charlotte = "oh, they chased down kids with super powers and the first 5 episodes followed literally an identical formula. OMG JUN MAEDA!! Such a brilliant writer!! Inb4 feels!!! AOTS!!".

CC and Charlotte are both not great, but it all comes down to promotion and name droppin.


Charlotte also had a much better first episode and a better lead character with actual flaws that isn't utilized as often as he should. Not to mention Classroom Crisis didn't get to the level of Charlotte's "turning point" until Episode 8 (all that happened in 6 is the reveal of Nagisa's situation and him passing a test, which is the equivalent of Charlotte's second episode, and 7 just had a hijacking that was swiftly resolved, which is the equivalent of Charlotte's third episode), and even then nobody's dead right now or even anything bad has happened to them aside from Nagisa's brother getting retransferred, but who the f*ck cares about him? So it should be freaking obvious why it has a higher rating. There hasn't been a single moment that equalled a guy turning into a wannabe supervillain whilst suffering from depression unless you really REALLY like political dialogue. Most of these last few episodes has been Nagisa doing the political stuff with Nagisa's suffering being relegated only to a few minutes of screentime.

You also have to recall that Charlotte's characters were chasing down super powered people because their powers can be dangerous to both them and the people around them. All CC had at stake was that the class would get shut down, but there doesn't seem to be any real consequences to that aside from them losing their job (which has as much stakes as losing a job at McDonalds). You can't compare the two in terms of dramatic substance when they actually have it.
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Damn I didn't expect that plot twist at all. Also, I'm surprised Mizuki actually said she loves Nagisa, I thought they were just teasing haha.



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what..Nagisa is not the real heir to the family?! okay ...
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wow just wow... so both iris and nagisa are the last descendant of shirasaki and shinamiya family. Nagisa still loyal to the shinamiya and seek vengeance for his family. He took nagisa's name to protect iris even until now he still protecting her, can't imagine what happen if iris taken into the kiryu family (knowing Yuji scar Nagisa's back). Really Nagisa is alone in his journey, so sad hope this turns out well.
Sep 5, 2015 8:28 AM

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Lol, Nagisa (the plot twost tho) should know that Kazuhisa is smarter than Yuji. But crap that plot twist, KARMA'S PAYBACK.

At least the ship is sailing, i guess.
The world shall know the truth soon.
Sep 5, 2015 12:04 PM

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Beautiful. Just beautiful.
So now we know. Iris is the original Nagisa Kiryuu, and the current "Nagisa-sama" Is the last remaining member of the Shirasaki family.

I'm assuming that Kazuhisa's father didn't even know the sex of his illegitimate child (Iris), when he left them, which is why nobody came to realize that the current Nagisa is a faker.

The fun thing is, this sets up the plot quite nicely. Nagisa may have just been screwed over by Kazuhisa, but the one, true Nagisa Kiryuu (Iris) is still free from their grasps, free from the politics, and in a position of anonymity whereby she still has the option to do whatever she wants, be it to retake her rightful position, or to step away from all the politics. Kazuhisa can't do shit about her rightful inheritance to the company either.

Looking forward to seeing how this drama plays out.
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Sep 5, 2015 2:05 PM

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RIP Iris/Fem-Nagisa x Mizuki. . . ;_;

Damn that was one beautifully executed identity swap between Iris/Nagisa and Nagisa/Iris. I was being strung along at believing that Iris/Nagisa was just Nagisa/Iris's former guardian ninja, not to be the real heir to the Shirasaki family.
Sep 5, 2015 4:23 PM

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Nagisa everywhere....
Sep 5, 2015 4:57 PM

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Nagisa was completely betrayed by his colleagues. His brother is to another level, this guy seems so smart.
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